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New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by ehnto »

lgeorget wrote: post #141
ehnto wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was in a taxi in Japan with a TV screen in the headrests. It started with a message saying it uses facial recognition to tell if you are male or female, in order to provide you with the most relevant content, where the content was entirely advertising. Your future is now.

So a camera records your face to send the pictures to God knows whose server and your preferences are dictated based on your assumed gender instead of being asked for...

Yep! You don't get asked or consent to anything either, it just happens. Pretty untoward.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by puranjay »

oceliker wrote: post #39

> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

> This could be the worst idea ever. Have cameras pointed at every flyer for the duration of the flight, for the incredibly minor benefit of stopping your movie

This seems to be uniform across all surveillance technology. The purported convenience is so laughably minor that it's almost a parody.

Like Alexa - people are willing to have a Big Brother-esque speaker inside their homes for the convenience of playing some music? Is that all it takes?

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by drpgq »

Gustomaximus wrote: post #91
oceliker wrote: post #39

> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

I specifically put on mediocre movies to help me sleep on flights. I often wake up when they finish. I can't be alone here.

Using this method has greatly increased my sleeping on trans-Atlantic flights.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by awesomepeter »

ddsea wrote: post #123
Gustomaximus wrote: post #91

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I specifically put on mediocre movies to help me sleep on flights. I often wake up when they finish. I can't be alone here.

Boring meetings have the same effect on me. The main challenge is, not to snore.

I think the sleepiness in meetings is mostly related to lack of fresh air. I remember reading some articles that the air during meetings (talking about physical meetings in rooms here) has a very high CO2 count.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by jon889 »

It's really easy to claim to make it easier to sleep in economy by adding a chair from short haul business class..

This doesn't fit in at all with making the seats as light and thin as possible to save weight and increase available space (for more legroom or more seats)

A much cheaper, smaller and simpler option would just have to have the head rest paddings that have small foldable wings that exist already on slightly more expensive airlines or premium economy.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by Ninn »

jon889 wrote: post #205

It's really easy to claim to make it easier to sleep in economy by adding a chair from short haul business class.. This doesn't fit in at all with making the seats as light and thin as possible to save weight and increase available space (for more legroom or more seats) A much cheaper, smaller and simpler option would just have to have the head rest paddings that have small foldable wings that exist already on slight…

Personally i dont feel like the flipping head rests provides enough support, to my head at all, and even less enough to support my bosy, so i really think the design here has some merits in this regard!

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Post by bamboozled »

ninjin wrote: post #150
dvcrn wrote: post #146

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Do you remember which taxi group that was? I live in Japan and haven’t noticed that yet

At the very least Nihon Koutsuu (日本交通) [1] does this. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihon_Kotsu

I also a similar message in a Koutsuu but it was something about "Watching you face to see if you find the content engaging".

I guess they think they can keep tailing the information to you until you can't seem to look away? Very creepy.

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Post by boring_twenties »

yibg wrote: post #169
boring_twenties wrote: post #70

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I upgraded to premium economy for $80 and the two friends I was traveling with gave me shit about it at both ends of the flight. All three of us were highly paid at the time. "That's over 10%!" exclaimed one (flights were ~$700). Uh, ok? I'm gonna physically and mentally torture myself for five ours over $80? I'm sure there's a fascinating behavioral evolution story behind this and I'd love to know what it is. It fee…

Which route has premium economy for only 10% more?

This was something they offered at the last minute, either at checkin or maybe the gate. It was MTJ->EWR, United.

*Oh yeah and they ended up in row 35 or something like that.

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Post by microtherion »

dvirsky wrote: post #101
dgemm wrote: post #87

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Two years ago they would have been finding a way to add blockchain.

"With our advanced Proof of Sleep algorithm... In the cloud..."

… using Deep Learning and NoSQL …

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by boring_twenties »

sandoooo wrote: post #161
boring_twenties wrote: post #59

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What exactly is the privacy risk there? The airline already knows who is sitting in the seat, and also their ff#

"Top 20 politicians from looking stupid in long-haul flights". How do they know which party that would be? Facial recognition, obviously .

Wait, are you trying to talk me out of it or sell me on it?
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