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New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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> In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. Wow, marketing fluff much? They just want to add something to check for closed eyes. Not exactly facial recognition.

It’s tough to defend CNN... but it has to recognize faces to do that right? :)

It just has to detect them.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Can’t they just put “are you still there” button like Netflix? Would be cheaper and less creepy.

It would also have less false positives. I sometimes close my eyes and just listen to the audio, for TV documentaries for ex. and there are also radio programs.

Yeh and what about listening to tv while trying to fall a sleep ?

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

I specifically put on mediocre movies to help me sleep on flights. I often wake up when they finish. I can't be alone here.

Boring meetings have the same effect on me. The main challenge is, not to snore.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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To drop some personal anecdote..

By far the best sleep I've had on an aircraft was an Alitalia flight in the early 2000s, a 747 from Italy to Hong Kong, economy class. The upholstery was thin worn-down carpet, the seat felt like plywood with metal reinforcements in important places, hopes of in-flight entertainment were confined to headphones operated by a wheel-dial fixed the the seat, there was nothing as fancy as a button. But it was spacious, spacious enough to allow use of its utilitarian space having a nice sleep.

An unlikely benchmark, but a benchmark for getting it right. A simple seat, space to adjust legs, and an adjustable headrest. That's all. I am happy with carpet, plastic/fake leather padding is sticky and therefore uncomfortable, as well as taking up precious millimeters which add up. Carpet is fine.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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It is for video calls. Depending on your class, you can video call the flight attendants

Whay's the point of video calling someone in the same room a few meters away?

When my house was built, I considered adding a wired intercom system. I could never think of a reason why it would be better than just yelling.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

This isn't recognizing your specific face, it's about watching your general expressions.

Many modern cars already have something like this to see if you're falling sleeping while behind the wheel and will start vibrating the seats and steering while sounding alarms to get you alert again.

That being said, it's definitely over engineered compared to a "are you still active" button on the screen.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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I always lean forward on the tray table. I find resting my head / getting it horizontal is far more important than anything for the rest of my body. Is this just me? I get the sense that very little is optimized for this. The next person reclining their seat makes it harder to fit my head on the tray table, for example. Conflicting resting positions!

I do the same thing, but eventually it becomes uncomfortable on my folded arms and they fall asleep. Or the person in front of me leans back and crushes my head...

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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I specifically put on mediocre movies to help me sleep on flights. I often wake up when they finish. I can't be alone here.

Boring meetings have the same effect on me. The main challenge is, not to snore.

In my senior year at Caltech, I flew out with some others to interview at HP. HP made a group presentation to us. I fell asleep halfway through the presentation and woke up halfway to the floor, and hit the floor with quite a crash. I inspired quite a bit of laughter with that.

I didn't get the job offer :-)

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