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New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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“As long as you can make it cheaper and able to fit more total passengers than the boring regular seat then we have a deal.” - Mr. Airline

That's the stand-up seat.[1] [1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/standing-up-airplane-seat...

I'd go for a bunk-bed cabin myself. I wouldn't mind lying on my back all flight with limited headroom if I could read a book and my knees weren't being jammed by the seat in front of me.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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What I'd rather see is designs that make the middle seat more palatable.

There are more aircraft with 3 seats on each side now.

It's not perfect, but ideas that make the middle seat better via dedicated armrests, or offsetting it slightly back, would be welcome.

One supplier with some decent ideas: https://www.airlineseats.biz/for-passengers

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the stand-up seat.[1] [1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/standing-up-airplane-seat...

I'd go for a bunk-bed cabin myself. I wouldn't mind lying on my back all flight with limited headroom if I could read a book and my knees weren't being jammed by the seat in front of me.

Yes! I can’t understand why we can’t have this, like a sleeper bus.

If I were to guess it’s probably because of aircraft evacuation and/or safety standards.

Or maybe it’s just not straightforward to make bunk beds fit with potential need for more aisles, or dealing with the cylindrical shape of the aircraft.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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The sitting position occupies a cubic volume with dead space below the butt and above the lap. If you want to put more people in the plane, make them lie down and place the lie down spaces on top of each other and side by side. I'd be down to fly in an airplane like that which by logic should have cheaper air fares because of more people on the plane.

It's the perfect sleeping position. The problem is Would you rather be lying down all the time or sitting down all the time? Overall I prefer lying down because I have the option of sleeping and staying awake while lying down; while when sitting, I have the option of staying awake and a really hard time getting some shut eye.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the stand-up seat.[1] [1] https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/standing-up-airplane-seat...

The real grift is that despite the claims in that article, we all know what will really happen to the prices: standing seats will cost what economy seats used to, and every other tier bumps up.

The cost of flying has gone down significantly over time so I would not be so sure about that.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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The sitting position occupies a cubic volume with dead space below the butt and above the lap. If you want to put more people in the plane, make them lie down and place the lie down spaces on top of each other and side by side. I'd be down to fly in an airplane like that which by logic should have cheaper air fares because of more people on the plane. It's the perfect sleeping position. The problem is Would you rathe…

How would you get up to go pee? How could you eat pretzels without getting them all over yourself?

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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“As long as you can make it cheaper and able to fit more total passengers than the boring regular seat then we have a deal.” - Mr. Airline

I think the bottom line is that people aren't, on average, actually willing to pay higher prices for flying with more room. So you could just as easily replace "- Mr Airline" with "- Everyone Involved"

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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The sitting position occupies a cubic volume with dead space below the butt and above the lap. If you want to put more people in the plane, make them lie down and place the lie down spaces on top of each other and side by side. I'd be down to fly in an airplane like that which by logic should have cheaper air fares because of more people on the plane. It's the perfect sleeping position. The problem is Would you rathe…

FAA regulations require the ability to evacuate the cabin in 90 seconds.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real grift is that despite the claims in that article, we all know what will really happen to the prices: standing seats will cost what economy seats used to, and every other tier bumps up.

The cost of flying has gone down significantly over time so I would not be so sure about that.

The price per square inch of human space has probably stayed the same after inflation adjustment. People on average are just more likely to buy cheaper seats than more room, so by natural selection we get smaller seats.
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