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>We are receiving comments and messages from the frustrated and angry groups archivists, and some of those are posted below. You can send in your own if you e-mail it to owlsy@yahoo.com. You're still using a yahoo.com email address to organize?
And this is the dangers of relying on a private, corporate, for-profit law-bound organization. They're susceptible to abiding by the laws and of course, there is a cost attached to all of this. Exploiting a free resource, as we all do these days (reddit, youtube, facebook, hackernews itself etc) is all well and good but maintaining history is expensive (content needs moderating, you are required to abide by the GDPR…
A very substantial portion (~98% of all public posts) of Google+ was successfully archived, at the Internet Archive, thanks to the Archive Team. As a longtime G+ user, and one of the organisers behind the G+ "Plexodus", the existence, assistance, and capabilities of the Archive Team were hugely appreciated. AT and the Internet Archive have succeeded in preserving other content, though not all projects are successful.…
I got into this tangentially because of a community and ecosystem of Y-groups that I've been involved in. When I found the Archive Team's efforts, I hitched my wagon - though I'm not at all central to that group.
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Yahoo sent out email notifications to every group owner and member. I got mine on November 1st. Yahoo is definitely handling this badly: they should have offered an export tool, given a longer window, and been clearer in their messaging. But the claim that they didn't notify people (and just put the information up in a place no one would see) is wrong.
I was a member of a single Yahoo group, a local recycling cooperative. I got a notification about the shutdown in mid-November and promptly sent a download request (not a full export). It took literally weeks before I was notified that the download was ready.
IDK if this is any help, Verizon is holding their annual conference On Dec 10th (less 2 days away as of this writing), with C.E.O. Hans Vestberg presenting at 12:15 EST. https://www.verizon.com/about/investors/ubs-global-tmt-confe... Maybe someone can pipe up at the conference.
IDK if this is any help, Verizon is holding their annual conference On Dec 10th (less 2 days away as of this writing), with C.E.O. Hans Vestberg presenting at 12:15 EST. https://www.verizon.com/about/investors/ubs-global-tmt-confe... Maybe someone can pipe up at the conference.
Dignium - is that an online conference? Do you need to own a share to get access? I'm having trouble making it out.
I'm not clear if we'll be able to give feedback, but I can try.
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A very substantial portion (~98% of all public posts) of Google+ was successfully archived, at the Internet Archive, thanks to the Archive Team. As a longtime G+ user, and one of the organisers behind the G+ "Plexodus", the existence, assistance, and capabilities of the Archive Team were hugely appreciated. AT and the Internet Archive have succeeded in preserving other content, though not all projects are successful.…
Thanks for that history. I wasn't aware of it. I got into this tangentially because of a community and ecosystem of Y-groups that I've been involved in. When I found the Archive Team's efforts, I hitched my wagon - though I'm not at all central to that group.
Feel free to drop me a line -- dredmorbius protonmail com
I suspect you've also been active on Reddit lately (ow my inbox!).
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For groups, especially, this simply isn't realistic to expect. When the G+ shutdown was announced (see earlier comment, I was one of the "Plexodus" organisers), the whole question of what to do about Communities migration hadn't even occurred to me. It wasn't until a community moderator happened to mention that they had a group with 400,000 subscribers and no idea at all to even begin that I started looking into this…
If Google ever wonders why their newer ideas failed to gain traction they should read your comment. For every early adopter pissed off there will be a hundred or more people that never make it to your new and shiny project. So piss off enough early adopters and whatever you launch will be a dud.
Either Google have done the maths and determined they no longer rely on early adopters ...
... or they haven't, and are badly deluded.
Given the response I've noted to many Google announcements since ~2013 or so, I'm suspecting the latter. It's pretty strongly hostile.
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A couple of years ago I saw somebody giving a talk, where they demonstrated a CAPCHA-Solving API, with people from India solving the CAPCHAs for a few cents.
That's basically what the DeathByCaptcha server is.
I'm genuinely curious from an ideological perspective, why archivists think all this material is worth saving? People often compare the shutting down of sites or the banning of content (e.g. When Tumblr banned porn, or now yahoo shutting down groups) to the burning of the Library of Alexandria. But there is a huge difference. The LoA held knowledge collated and collected by the best thinkers of the time. The Internet…
Step 1: We only need to archive the genuinely good content. Step 2: It will take a long time to look through all this content and determine which parts deserve keeping. Step 3: We will inevitably leave out something that someone else thinks is worth keeping anyway. Step 4: Let's just archive everything.