This is pretty standard. Google Groups bans me whenever I open too many tabs at once. It's annoying, but these big corps don't have any inclination to support user behavior other than standard, especially when closing down a product. I think the blocking bit is sensationalizing it a bit more than is the reality. The site policies and design intentionally prevent joining a group just to download everything, it's not an intentional blocking of a group or action beyond the default behavior of enforcing the TOS.
Verizon/Yahoo Blocking Attempts to Archive Yahoo Groups – Deletion: Dec. 14
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Re: Verizon/Yahoo Blocking Attempts to Archive Yahoo Groups – Deletion: Dec. 14
#382Lost 15 years worth of email with yahoo since I didn't sign in for 1 year. No extensive warning either. Yahoo sucks
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#383Earlier quoted context omitted.
Too often historical events turn out to be perfectly true, but claimed to be myths due to dizzying semantic distinctions. Just looking at the third link, the most upvoted answer agrees that humanity suffered a significant loss of important information. And the 'myth' is just an asinine distinction regarding whether loss was due literally due to fire, or whether the information was lost due to some other cause. I thin…
It's quite clear the library is no longer here. How exactly it was lost does matter as its destruction has been used to paint various groups as anti intellectual barbarians since ancient times. Eliminating the story as a weapon to attack others would do humanity some good.
It has been used that way, but not here. Here, it's a disorienting non-sequitur that makes it sound like the information was never really lost.
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#384disclaimer: I'm a Member of Archive Team who's helping coordinate the joining of Yahoo Groups in preparation for archival. Yahoo's banning of a large amount of the accounts we were using is a huge setback for us. In total we lost over access to over 55,000 Yahoo Groups, many of these will now not be archived and will be lost when Yahoo deletes everything on December 14. Particularly disastrous was the loss of access…
As an aside, is there anyway to recover emails if I didn't sign into Yahoo for a year? I and a lot of others had up to 15 years of sentimental mail exchanged during that period :(
Re: Verizon/Yahoo Blocking Attempts to Archive Yahoo Groups – Deletion: Dec. 14
#385Can we bypass their firewall protection?
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#386Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can install ArchiveTeam Warrior: https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=ArchiveTeam_Warr...
Unfortunately it doesn't offer a qemu-compatible image or an image that would work when converted, it's a shame and shooting itself in the foot.
An ova file is just a tarball containing an ovf file and a vmdk file. The ovf file is a text-based configuration format, so you can get a basic idea of the config you'd need for qemu. Then the vmdk can be converted with qemu-img.
I used the following qemu-img command:
qemu-img convert -O qcow2 archiveteam-warrior-v3-20171013-disk001.vmdk archiveteam-warrior-v3-20171013-disk001.qcow2
qemu-system-x86_64 -m 1024 archiveteam-warrior-v3-20171013-disk001.qcow2
Re: Verizon/Yahoo Blocking Attempts to Archive Yahoo Groups – Deletion: Dec. 14
#387disclaimer: I'm a Member of Archive Team who's helping coordinate the joining of Yahoo Groups in preparation for archival. Yahoo's banning of a large amount of the accounts we were using is a huge setback for us. In total we lost over access to over 55,000 Yahoo Groups, many of these will now not be archived and will be lost when Yahoo deletes everything on December 14. Particularly disastrous was the loss of access…
As an aside, is there anyway to recover emails if I didn't sign into Yahoo for a year? I and a lot of others had up to 15 years of sentimental mail exchanged during that period :(
I don't see why not. Point Thunderbird at it or something and then just transfer the mails over to somewhere else if you want that - but this is not about mail. Rather it's about Yahoo Groups, whose archives are about to go away.
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#388Call For Action https://modsandmembersblog.wordpress.com/taking-action/ Don't miss the sidebar with these links: https://modsandmembersblog.wordpress.com/media-contacts/ https://modsandmembersblog.wordpress.com/contacting-verizon-... https://modsandmembersblog.wordpress.com/contacting-verizon-... Also, you can add these emails to the media contacts: "Reporter Katyanna Quach" , "Managing editor Gavin Clarke" , "Corey…
Please be aware that historically spamming media representatives has the opposite of the intended effect. A few emails to make it clear that it's coming from a group instead of just one individual can help, but at the point where it becomes saturating inbox noise it tends to get ignored. It's not like interacting with political representatives or corporate PR/executive types where you're conveying the size of the int…
Point taken.
There's also stuff there about contacting Verizon and contacting the shareholders of Verizon. For them, I think we need volume.
Re: Verizon/Yahoo Blocking Attempts to Archive Yahoo Groups – Deletion: Dec. 14
#389This is pretty standard. Google Groups bans me whenever I open too many tabs at once. It's annoying, but these big corps don't have any inclination to support user behavior other than standard, especially when closing down a product. I think the blocking bit is sensationalizing it a bit more than is the reality. The site policies and design intentionally prevent joining a group just to download everything, it's not a…
Well, it was actually intentional. While a lot of us were backing up our groups as individuals (whether as owners or just members), and having no trouble there, the Archive Team was taking requests. So there was volume involved, and they have been in touch with Yahoo who refused to be supportive of the archive effort. So their target really was these guys specifically. Not just the ToS, but these guys in the context of an archive effort at a point of "ToS" (Termination of Service).
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#390I have a disability group that actively discourages email messages and recommends - or, that is, recommended - that members use the Files section for answers to frequent questions. Email is for questions not answered in Files. This group would be intolerable without a website, with the same questions asked over and over and over again. Yahoo is totally wrong that email is all groups need.
Yes, exactly. Other groups have medical tests uploaded to the files section, to be shared with other members and discussed on-list. And yet others had artistic works or literature.