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Grocery Industry Confronts a Problem: Only 10% of Americans Love Cooking (2017)

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Re: Grocery Industry Confronts a Problem: Only 10% of Americans Love Cooking (2017)

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Also worth noting is that a lot of the vegetables you get in restaurant dishes have been buttered, salted, and/or sugared to hell to make them taste better in a short amount of time. This, of course, makes it even harder to actually get healthy food when eating out.

Butter and salt are not bad for you.

Butter is calorie dense which may make it harder to lower intake.

Re: Grocery Industry Confronts a Problem: Only 10% of Americans Love Cooking (2017)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also worth noting is that a lot of the vegetables you get in restaurant dishes have been buttered, salted, and/or sugared to hell to make them taste better in a short amount of time. This, of course, makes it even harder to actually get healthy food when eating out.

Butter and salt are not bad for you.

Is the government lying when they say you should keep your sodium intake below 2300mg per day?

Re: Grocery Industry Confronts a Problem: Only 10% of Americans Love Cooking (2017)

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I've been seeing a nutritionist to try to help with weight loss and his emphasis has been on a healthy plate, which is a plate that is half vegetables, a quarter protein, a quarter starch or grains. Even at nice restaurants, it is extremely difficult to order meals that fit these proportions, and, as you move down the quick service spectrum it gets harder and harder. By the time you arrive at fast food, its difficult…

I never understood why vegetables are difficult to get as a "fast food" format. With salt pepper oil and heat, they can be very tasty. There has to be a huge market for Jack in the box equivalent for healthy eating. Most of the existing fast casual chains miss the mark. Chipotle comes to mind, but it's still mostly grains and protein and still lacking in vegetables, beyond the optional pico de gallo for your burrito.

I find Cava's green and grains bowl to be pretty good for getting a decent serving of veggies. I usually skip the spreads and dressings and it basically turns into a tasty salad with rice.

Re: Grocery Industry Confronts a Problem: Only 10% of Americans Love Cooking (2017)

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Well modern America has no real food culture. Most countries combine the same 5 local staples like rice, vegetables meat, local seasonings etc so they always have it on hand and know how to easily make something. Here check an Nytimes recipe and it will have you doing hours of prep and ridiculous steps like getting one pan out and dirty just to slightly toast something to make it restaurant quality presentation. Don’…

NYT has a lot of beginner friendly recipes. Most of them, even.

Marcella Hazan’s Tomato Sauce, namely. NYT’s recipe mailing list is surprisingly good for ideas and quicker recipes, it’s not all complex dishes.

Re: Grocery Industry Confronts a Problem: Only 10% of Americans Love Cooking (2017)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also worth noting is that a lot of the vegetables you get in restaurant dishes have been buttered, salted, and/or sugared to hell to make them taste better in a short amount of time. This, of course, makes it even harder to actually get healthy food when eating out.

Butter and salt are not bad for you.

No food is good or bad, it’s just food. Dose makes the poison, yada yada. Please stop moralizing food choices. Is butter a calorie heavy food that is being overused in restaurants, leading to overeating? I’d say yes. Does that make butter “bad?” I’d say no, still just a food item. It’s amoral. Sodium is an even trickier thing, as overeating isn’t really a calorie thing but can have other adverse impacts.

Re: Grocery Industry Confronts a Problem: Only 10% of Americans Love Cooking (2017)

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Butter and salt are not bad for you.

Is the government lying when they say you should keep your sodium intake below 2300mg per day?

Probably. You pretty much have to read the studies yourself, looking specifically for ways they are fucked up, to find out anything useful in the area of nutrition.

Re: Grocery Industry Confronts a Problem: Only 10% of Americans Love Cooking (2017)

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I've been seeing a nutritionist to try to help with weight loss and his emphasis has been on a healthy plate, which is a plate that is half vegetables, a quarter protein, a quarter starch or grains. Even at nice restaurants, it is extremely difficult to order meals that fit these proportions, and, as you move down the quick service spectrum it gets harder and harder. By the time you arrive at fast food, its difficult…

Traditional American cooking seems to be a Protein + 2 sides. On the surface most vegetarian options become 1) replace meat with tofu or 2) a salad. Both of which get boring very quickly. For vegetarian dishes it’s helpful to look at non European cuisines. Curries and soups both have a huge variety and don’t require a meat to be complete. Chickpeas also make a great protein substitute besides Tofu. Dumplings are othe…

Chickpeas are tasty but the protein quality as measured by DIAAS score is significantly worse than red meat. In particular they are deficient in tryptophan.

Re: Grocery Industry Confronts a Problem: Only 10% of Americans Love Cooking (2017)

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A "demography is destiny" aspect to this: Since households are smaller (we marry later or not at all; have fewer children), those who do cook are cooking for fewer mouths, which leads to more time spent per meal consumed. 5 single people cooking and cleaning for themselves put in substantially more time than a one person cooking/cleaning for 5. Also there's some amount of waste from scaling down recipes originally wr…

Just my wife and I. She doesn't have good options for lunch and I do most of the cooking at home. I'll usually make 3 portions and package the third one for her lunch the next day.

Re: Grocery Industry Confronts a Problem: Only 10% of Americans Love Cooking (2017)

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Yes; restaurants, especially nice restaurants, are in the business of selling food which people eat primarily for pleasure, not for nutrition. It's an indulgence, not sustenance. Even those restaurants who want to appeal to a 'healthy eating' audience find that their less healthy items sell better; considering the difficulty of succeeding or even surviving in the restaurant business, they start to emphasize those ite…

The misconception is tasty food and healthy food are orthogonal qualities; that's thankfully far from the case! For example, you could a make a restaurant quality chicken breast entree with a white wine reduction and heavy cream sauce, seasoned with Herbs de Provence. If you're a follower of Keto, you'd notice these ingredients are all low carbohydrate, and offer protein and fats. Pair with seasoned veggies and you'v…

Substitute thighs for the breast and you might have something. As has been noted, chicken breast is the skim milk of the meat world.

Re: Grocery Industry Confronts a Problem: Only 10% of Americans Love Cooking (2017)

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Butter and salt are not bad for you.

Is the government lying when they say you should keep your sodium intake below 2300mg per day?

There is a major genetic component when it comes to handling sodium. Some people can eat a huge amount with no ill effects, others are much more sensitive. This is still an area of active research, so take any nutritional guidelines with a grain of salt.
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