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Re: Cairo Desktop Environment

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Was Cairo not a Linux Desktop at some point?

There is indeed cairo-dock / glx-dock [1], that can probably be used as a desktop environment too by using a separate window manager like Compiz. I thought this link was about it. The name clash is very unfortunate here. [1] http://www.glx-dock.org/

I was looking for the Linux download link.

Re: Cairo Desktop Environment

#62

It looks rather interesting. I didn't realize Windows 10 was hackable enough to do this. The name made me think of the Cairo graphics drawling library initially.

I think it’s a reference to the code name of Windows 95, which was supposed to introduce an OO desktop shell. (It did, but less extensively than planned.)

Re: Cairo Desktop Environment

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post #62

It looks rather interesting. I didn't realize Windows 10 was hackable enough to do this. The name made me think of the Cairo graphics drawling library initially.

I think it’s a reference to the code name of Windows 95, which was supposed to introduce an OO desktop shell. (It did, but less extensively than planned.)

Chicago was the code name for Windows 95. Cairo was a dropped (and ambitious) reworking of NT (at the time).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Microsoft_codenames

Re: Cairo Desktop Environment

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post #4

It looks rather interesting. I didn't realize Windows 10 was hackable enough to do this. The name made me think of the Cairo graphics drawling library initially.

I was sad when shell replacements stopped being as much of a thing; all the way back to Windows 3 and up to ar least Windows XP there were well designed alternatives to the default Windows shell environment. A good example of an early one is Norton Shell for Windows: http://toastytech.com/guis/ndw.html Then later there were things such as LiteStep, bbZero and even KDE at a time. Personally, I actually used ReactOS sh…

I was just commenting about the Norton Desktop on here a few days ago. I really liked its scripting environment, brought features to Windows 3.1 that modern windows still doesn't expose as conveniently.

Ran AfterStep and LiteStep for years. Tried the various blackbox things, but minimal UI isn't for me, I want more functionality out of my UI, not less.

Re: Cairo Desktop Environment

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post #63
post #62

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I think it’s a reference to the code name of Windows 95, which was supposed to introduce an OO desktop shell. (It did, but less extensively than planned.)

Chicago was the code name for Windows 95. Cairo was a dropped (and ambitious) reworking of NT (at the time). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Microsoft_codenames

Ah, right. The OO filesystem and whatnot too.

Re: Cairo Desktop Environment

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post #54

Has anyone actually tried this? I'm curious but if I don't like it and uninstall it I'm afraid of weird glitchy behaviors and a broken shell and I really don't feel like reinstalling Windows right now.

Perhaps you could install it with Windows Sandbox. Low risk.

Re: Cairo Desktop Environment

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I use keypiranha as well. Great tool! > it's a pity they don't use the 100 times faster WizFile 100 times faster? Everything is instant for me, never had any kind of delay. What things are slow enough with it that something else could be faster?

Indexing. Everything traverses your folders to find everything and make an index from that, WizFile reads this from some hard drive tables directly. So the first indexing with everything takes maybe 30 minutes or more (I actually have no Idea how long it took exactly..) and wizfile is done in under a minute. With slower drives (e.g. external USB2) the difference should be even more dramatic. The only downside appart…

I don’t think that’s true. Everything takes ~20 seconds to index my machine. I think Everything reads NTFS file table directly. Maybe you didn’t give it Admin privileges?

Re: Cairo Desktop Environment

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post #7

It looks rather interesting. I didn't realize Windows 10 was hackable enough to do this. The name made me think of the Cairo graphics drawling library initially.

Yeah there was a bunch of alternative shells for Windows going way back... I completely forgot until I saw this but I used to use one in the 90s or early 00s. LiteStep I think, and you could install different themes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alternative_shells_for...

IIRC I used litestep for a while, and it felt awesome.

The weird themes were something that made sense in a world where Winamp skins where a fertile ground for UI experimentation, and would probably be shunned today.

Still, AFAIR, there wasn't much deep innovation on the UX front, it still boiled down to the same operations as explorer.exe, while this Cairo thing seems to push things a bit more.

Re: Cairo Desktop Environment

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Indexing. Everything traverses your folders to find everything and make an index from that, WizFile reads this from some hard drive tables directly. So the first indexing with everything takes maybe 30 minutes or more (I actually have no Idea how long it took exactly..) and wizfile is done in under a minute. With slower drives (e.g. external USB2) the difference should be even more dramatic. The only downside appart…

I don’t think that’s true. Everything takes ~20 seconds to index my machine. I think Everything reads NTFS file table directly. Maybe you didn’t give it Admin privileges?

Ooops, I think you are right!

Here is where I mixed up things: WizTree does what WinDirStat does, but here it's really quicker.

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