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Climate change and nutrient pollution are depleting oxygen from oceans: study

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Re: Climate change and nutrient pollution are depleting oxygen from oceans: study

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Cannot fathom why articles like this fail to link to the original source report. Here it is: https://portals.iucn.org/library/sites/library/files/documen... In particular, I wanted to see what new contributions this report was making in measurement of ocean oxygen concentrations. Section 2.1 appears to be the place this is covered, but all I see is a review of previous work by others. The report is extraordinarily va…

Articles about scientific papers should be required to link right at the top. Oftentimes all the hyperlinks are to other articles by the same journalist or publisher. It's insanity. A firefox plugin that somehow finds the original source and pops it up would be incredible.

Re: Climate change and nutrient pollution are depleting oxygen from oceans: study

#83

I’d almost wish Governments would do more to fight climate change so we can stop talking about it. Not only are we facing the end of civilisation as we know it, it’s going to be a long ass grind to the end constantly discussing the climate crises in between dodging one catastrophe after the next and obsessing over it all. I hardly remember life without talking about it, but I do remember it was nicer and more simple.…

> I’d almost wish Governments would do more to fight climate change so we can stop talking about it. But what is "more" and how much is enough so the complainers stop complaining? No rational being is denying climate change -- governments are not promoting pollution or whatever. We can face the end of civilization in more ways than just climate change. There are many other issues that are currently equally, if not mo…

> No rational being is denying climate change

I would agree, yet we have many of those people in our government. The US president and vice president are both climate change deniers.

> governments are not promoting pollution or whatever

The current US administration has rolled back many clean water acts and signed away protected land to mine for resources.

> There are many other issues that are currently equally, if not more, important than climate change.

Please, do tell, because I don't see it.

Re: Climate change and nutrient pollution are depleting oxygen from oceans: study

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I don't know the [potentially exponential] knock-on effects of a 3-4% decrease of oxygen in the ocean. Do you?

I know it's not "Ocean running out of oxygen"

Running out does not mean going to 0. It means too low to support much of the sea life.

Re: Climate change and nutrient pollution are depleting oxygen from oceans: study

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Boy are characterizations like this getting tired. An actually accurate title would read something like: Farm and industry run-off in certain areas of the world is depleting oxygen in certain parts of the ocean. The vast majority of the issue isn't related to rising temps, it would still be there if there were no rising temps. It is the agricultural and industrial runoff in what I suspect are very, very specific part…

Warmer waters hold less oxygen. This is fundamental, scientific fact.. The article specifically mentions the relatively small problem of run-off, and then the broader problem of, you know, entire oceans. A relatively constant, albeit still problematic, issue with runoff is pretty mild compared to the potentially for extremely wide-scale change from climate, hence the alarmism. To snidely quote from the beginning of y…

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Re: Climate change and nutrient pollution are depleting oxygen from oceans: study

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Can you cite any of this?

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Orwell wrote about communism not socialism in Animal Farm and 1984. Courtesy of his experiences, mainly in the Spanish Civil War, he became a left-leaning anti-communist democratic socialist, and supporter of UK Labour party until his death.

Re: Climate change and nutrient pollution are depleting oxygen from oceans: study

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Generally you stop taking someone seriously when you can disprove the data pushed, not because of some political cult mentality.

Please don't do ideological flamewar on HN. We've had to ask you this multiple times before. Eventually we ban accounts that keep doing it.

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Re: Climate change and nutrient pollution are depleting oxygen from oceans: study

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They already took over and are now trying to avoid a credibility crisis. We've been living the 1984 socialist dystopia for decades, but it is really starting to show lately.

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Re: Climate change and nutrient pollution are depleting oxygen from oceans: study

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

3-4% in 2100 if things continue is NOT "the ocean running out of oxygen"

If that has an extremely adverse effect on ocean life, it most certainly is "running out of oxygen".

That doesn't mean it's running out of oxygen.

Re: Climate change and nutrient pollution are depleting oxygen from oceans: study

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Boy are characterizations like this getting tired. An actually accurate title would read something like: Farm and industry run-off in certain areas of the world is depleting oxygen in certain parts of the ocean. The vast majority of the issue isn't related to rising temps, it would still be there if there were no rising temps. It is the agricultural and industrial runoff in what I suspect are very, very specific part…

And you completely ignored the spooky part of the article:

Much of the [oxygen] loss is expected in the top 1,000m of the water column, which is richest in biodiversity.

You are focusing on eutrophication of shallow waters near land, but that isn’t the problem.

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