Google management shuffle points to retreat from Alphabet experiment

Post by stephenr » Sat, Dec 07, 2019, 6:53 PM UTC

mrtksn wrote: post #109

tyingq wrote: post #23

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In this case, AMP doesn't help much...it's still downloading a ton of crap. 464 requests and 12MB of garbage for an AMP hosted article. https://imgur.com/tPHaHIO

That's because you are running in a simulator and not doing ad-blocking. Here is the real deal, 1.9MB and took 12 seconds to load completely: https://imgur.com/a/XcsNEsp The actual Bloomberg page was 5.3Mbytes and took 30 seconds to load completely: https://imgur.com/a/zBaOzeD If 3X improvement in loading time and data transfer is not much of a help, I don't know what it is. USERS like AMP because it is an actual imp…

Post by mrtksn » Sat, Dec 07, 2019, 7:01 PM UTC

stephenr wrote: post #131

mrtksn wrote: post #109

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That's because you are running in a simulator and not doing ad-blocking. Here is the real deal, 1.9MB and took 12 seconds to load completely: https://imgur.com/a/XcsNEsp The actual Bloomberg page was 5.3Mbytes and took 30 seconds to load completely: https://imgur.com/a/zBaOzeD If 3X improvement in loading time and data transfer is not much of a help, I don't know what it is. USERS like AMP because it is an actual imp…

Running a content blocker makes the original page load quickly and doesn’t require any amp. If you need an ad blocker to make amp load quickly that defeats the purpose of amp, because the ad blocker makes the original site load quickly without the inherent google bullshittery.

Post by edmundsauto » Sat, Dec 07, 2019, 7:17 PM UTC

wh1t3n01s3 wrote: post #46

abalone wrote: post #34

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> innovation has slowed to a crawl This is so typical of Apple criticism. They did do well with the iPhone and Mac that now any new innovations seem boring in comparison. It’s wrong. The Apple Watch came out under Cook. That is more than an “accessory.” It’s a new platform, new OS variant, etc. It’s dominating smart watches. The AirPods are pretty innovative in terms of the fine grained details that have made them su…

All these products were previously imaginedand started by SJ. Cook is a marketer not a visionary or inventor of any sort.

Post by xyzzyz » Sat, Dec 07, 2019, 7:24 PM UTC

petra wrote: post #20

jfoster wrote: post #7

Any investor in Alphabet for the long term would hope this isn't the case. It also doesn't make sense at a time when some of their moonshots are looking as though they could pay off. (Eg. Waymo) That said, it makes sense from the Page/Brin perspective, perhaps. It's a lot more difficult to 10x a company that's already worth $Y billion. Perhaps better to start the ventures separately in a way that is more exciting to…

The problem is funding: let's say funding a self-driving project takes $5B-$10B and 15 years, until it starts to become a real, scalable business. And that's probably optimistic. Who will fund that ? I wonder if Google was too ambitious. Maybe if they focused all the effort on making trucks that could only ride the highway safely, in limited conditions, they would have had a working business by now.

Post by notatoad » Sat, Dec 07, 2019, 7:36 PM UTC

MereInterest wrote: post #120

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The selling point of AMP is that it's a mobile-friendly web component framework. If someone uses AMP for their website, and as a result you get a better mobile experience, it's hard to see how that's not inherent to AMP.

I turn on the faucet and fill a glass of water. Taking a drink from the glass, I feel less thirsty. If someone turns on a faucet, and as a result feels less thirsty, then that that thirst-removal must be inherent to turning on a faucet, right? This is obviously silly, but follows the same reasoning that you have stated. Drinking water reduces thirst, not running water from a faucet. Redesigning a website to be less b…