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Deploy-your-own-SaaS: “only yours” cloud services for everyday needs

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Re: Deploy-your-own-SaaS: “only yours” cloud services for everyday needs

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Post by hunter2_ »

organsnyder wrote: post #20
OJFord wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't know HA had plugins like this, seems weird, HA itself is one of these things, not some sort of parent thing to which they're deployed. That's how I see it anyway.

Depends on how you're running it. When I was running hass.io on a RaPi, I used a few of those plugins (including PiHole). Now that I'm running HA in a VM on a bigger machine, it makes more sense to run those services as separate VMs alongside it.

I've been trying to decide between these options myself. I was never happy with the slow restarts and potential for microSD failure when I ran HA on a RaPi3 (years ago, legacy AIO on stock Raspbian) so I haven't kept up with it and now want to start from scratch on something like a NUC. Do I make Hass.io a VM along side other VMs for PiHole, my LAMP website, etc? It will be idle so much that low power/heat during idle is significantly important, but I love the simplicity of reverting an isolated service back to a snapshot after I break it.

I suspect a single OS on metal with each of these in a Docker container would be more efficient, but I haven't played with containers before.

Re: Deploy-your-own-SaaS: “only yours” cloud services for everyday needs

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Post by smashah »

OJFord wrote: post #6
smashah wrote: post #5

Home assistant's add-on store has a lot of these ready to go. https://community.home-assistant.io/tags/hassio-repository

I didn't know HA had plugins like this, seems weird, HA itself is one of these things, not some sort of parent thing to which they're deployed. That's how I see it anyway.

It's definitely a parent thing. Give it a go, even if it's just to try and easily deploy these add-ons.

Re: Deploy-your-own-SaaS: “only yours” cloud services for everyday needs

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Post by dangus »

It's a nice list of really useful services.

However, it should also be pointed out that it's also a deploy-your-own-unpaid-system-administrator-job. A lot of the value in SaaS products is the service provided of someone else maintaining it. The maintenance and security patching for running all this stuff, especially on the open Internet, that would quickly become a part time job.

So, I'd say that for most people with a limited time budget, it's worth the cost to simply find a high quality, paid SaaS provider for many of these services.

An example on from list: deploying your own email server and depending on it for your important communications is something that almost nobody should attempt on their own. Instead, most people should look to migrate from free providers that could do things like close your account/delete your data at any time, to paid ones that treat you like a paying customer.

Re: Deploy-your-own-SaaS: “only yours” cloud services for everyday needs

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Post by art4ur »

It's easy to forget that sometimes you don't really need to host things. I used to run a Next Cloud server for syncing my documents, contacts, and calendar with all my devices. I'd rarely use a device that was not mine to access those things. I've switched to Syncthing (https://syncthing.net/) and DecSync (https://github.com/39aldo39/DecSync) and that's replaced 95% of what Next Cloud did for me.

Your use case might differ from mine quite a bit, but for me it was the best way to go. No server to babysit and everything "Just Works™".

Re: Deploy-your-own-SaaS: “only yours” cloud services for everyday needs

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Post by kemenaran »

For your self-hosted SaaS needs, Yunohost is awesome.

One-click install of many apps and services – but more impressively one-click upgrades as well. Nice, user-friendly, very little maintenance required. Self-hosting for people who don’t want to do system administration.

I’ve been running a Yunohost server for the past three years, adding and removing various services on the fly. Love to use it, and the great work of people behind this.

https://yunohost.org

Re: Deploy-your-own-SaaS: “only yours” cloud services for everyday needs

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Post by ShamelessC »

art4ur wrote: post #35

It's easy to forget that sometimes you don't really need to host things. I used to run a Next Cloud server for syncing my documents, contacts, and calendar with all my devices. I'd rarely use a device that was not mine to access those things. I've switched to Syncthing ( https://syncthing.net/ ) and DecSync ( https://github.com/39aldo39/DecSync ) and that's replaced 95% of what Next Cloud did for me. Your use case mi…

Do you mean you switched to a hosted Syncthing?

I'm looking into Nextcloud and syncthing. A lot of people suggested Nextcloud. What do you like better about syncthing?

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