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Re: Ask HN: What mistakes did you make when starting as a consultant/freelancer?

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Setting my rates too low. Here's what I figured out those many years ago. Clients who are cheap are also really into wasting your time and trying to micromanage the project. Clients who will pay a lot more also give you latitude to do your job (after all they're paying you to be the expert). Keep jacking up your rates with each new client until you hit a ceiling. Whatever you're charging now, without even knowing wha…

Is it better to charge per project or per hour?

Per project is dangerous. Consulting clients will change their minds frequently and you'll want to give them the latitude to do so, which means you simply can't estimate the time needed to complete a project without adding X00% on top to compensate. No one wants to have the "this is out of scope, I'm happy to do it but we need to talk about an amendment..." conversation.

Per hour is not adequate for this type of work; you're delivering a product or service that will increase your client's bottom line, you're not a seat-filler who punches a clock. I charge in the smallest increment of time that I believe I can provide a meaningful impact or deliver a complete solution. When asked for a quote I translate my billing into weeks, as in $X000 per week. Accounting for admin tasks and paperwork, back and forth emails and phone calls, plus showing off the work completed and waiting for approval/notes, a week often seems like not enough time (I can't count the number of times a client asking for a simple font change took literally a week to order and get approval on). There are very rare instances where I know I can accomplish a task in days instead of weeks and if the client asks, I will bill in days instead.

"My rate is $X000 per week and my initial estimate is that this will take XX weeks to complete. I require an up-front retainer of X weeks to get started and I bill every two weeks after. Who should I address the initial invoice to?"

I would typically never reveal this tip, but here it goes: "I bill weekly and my normal rate is $X000. For you I would be happy to reduce that to $X000-20%." The client is told up front that they are getting a discount without having to ask for it and the Discount line item on the invoice(s) very much help in getting that invoice paid faster. The secret is that the rate quoted is always 20% higher than what my ideal number is. I make it rain discounts on everyone.

No one wants to have the rate conversation but I've noticed that clients who don't shy away from that talk or flinch at your rate will not be a problem. Clients who complain that you cost too much will be a problem. Politely suggest you are not a good fit for their project and end the call, you're better off. If you get to the point that your non-flinching clients say yes a little too fast to your rate, increase it. You want a little resistance, but not much. Saying yes too fast means you need to charge more.

And lastly, this is not about what work "costs" or "market rates", this is about what your completed solution is worth to your client and how much it will increase their bottom line. You're playing a different game so stop charging like you're mowing lawns or digging ditches. Charge more.

Re: Ask HN: What mistakes did you make when starting as a consultant/freelancer?

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Longer write-up here: https://www.gkogan.co/blog/how-i-learned-to-get-consulting-l...

Some things I learned through mistakes:

- Charge more.

- Travel like a professional and bill the client. For my first business trip I used airline points, stayed at an Airbnb on my own dime, and even refused the client's offer to reimburse me. Stupid. (Full story here: https://www.gkogan.co/blog/stupid/)

- If I'm not enjoying the work, request a change or move on. Don't just "tolerate" it and chug along. One of the greatest benefits of consulting is the freedom to chose whom you work with... Take advantage of it.

- Remember who the client is, and don't get too involved with their subordinates.

- If you don't feel "Hell yes!" about taking on a project or prospect, just skip it. It's not going to get more interesting over time.

- Find a great accountant. Fire bad accountants fast (and lawyers, and other service providers).

- Tell the client the hard truth.

- Impostor syndrome is normal. Get over it.

- Stop trying to go above-and-beyond all the time. Do what you were brought in to do, and do it exceptionally well. If other opportunities come up, suggest them as follow-on projects instead of just doing extra stuff for free.

- If you're clashing with an exec at the company, tell the client, instead of just backing away from the project.

- There are hundreds/thousands (depending on specialty) of potential clients out there, you just have to find them. So don't worry if a deal falls through, don't envy other consultants, and don't take on bad projects out of desperation.

Re: Ask HN: What mistakes did you make when starting as a consultant/freelancer?

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What's the appeal of being an independent consultant? Why would you do this versus any other business or job? Genuinely curious what the appeal is.

For me:

- I get to work on something new every few months. New company, new people, new challenges, etc. This keeps things interesting.

- I get to do what I think is best for the client, rather than taking orders from someone.

- Pays much better than salaried positions (for me, at least).

- I get to define my own job. If next year I decide to switch from marketing consulting to, say, operations consulting or sales consulting or illustration work or some narrow marketing thing like site conversion optimization, I just update my website headline it's done.

- Experience the joy of running a business. Project cash flow, close deals, scope out projects, deliver results, collect feedback, track invoices... Love it.

- Ultimate flexibility. Last year I took a month off to travel, and this year I took a month off for paternity leave. All it took is advance notice to my clients, and a return date so they know when we can pick back up.

Re: Ask HN: What mistakes did you make when starting as a consultant/freelancer?

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Setting my rates too low. Here's what I figured out those many years ago. Clients who are cheap are also really into wasting your time and trying to micromanage the project. Clients who will pay a lot more also give you latitude to do your job (after all they're paying you to be the expert). Keep jacking up your rates with each new client until you hit a ceiling. Whatever you're charging now, without even knowing wha…

Just curious what do you consult on for 350/hr? Is this basic CRUD stuff? Wordpress template etc?

Re: Ask HN: What mistakes did you make when starting as a consultant/freelancer?

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it better to charge per project or per hour?

I believe that from several times I've read through freelance-related discussion on this site that the recommendation is explicitly not to charge per project. The reason being that it can be very hard to estimate the total time required for the project. Additionally, once a customer has payed they might say "oh, we though you knew that this (previously unmentioned) feature was required when we paid you." Scope creep,…

But they use the same argument to justify project based pay. You could just take longer, there's no way to know what the cost will be, etc.

Re: Ask HN: What mistakes did you make when starting as a consultant/freelancer?

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Don't charge per project - charge for your time. The only exception I'd make on this rule is sweat equity and that's because I'm well aware of the gamble I am making with my time. Still charge a token amount of actual $$ for sweat equity unless you are a co-founder.

Do not overengineer anything.

Charge for your time - 3.6x what you are currently charging ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ no idea what that is. Don't work for clients that blink at that price at all.

Take the high road in every possible situation and never burn a bridge - your life blood will be repeat business and referrals. Your community and network are tighter than you realize.

At least 20% of your time will be networking, sales, and meetings - buffer your estimates an extra 30% with that in mind plus whatever other buffers you already told yourself you'd do.

Be over enthusiastic, be your own hype person and the hype person of the project you are working on, still under promise and over deliver though.

Re: Ask HN: What mistakes did you make when starting as a consultant/freelancer?

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post #34

What's the appeal of being an independent consultant? Why would you do this versus any other business or job? Genuinely curious what the appeal is.

For me: - I get to work on something new every few months. New company, new people, new challenges, etc. This keeps things interesting. - I get to do what I think is best for the client, rather than taking orders from someone. - Pays much better than salaried positions (for me, at least). - I get to define my own job. If next year I decide to switch from marketing consulting to, say, operations consulting or sales co…

Can you share what you consult on?

Re: Ask HN: What mistakes did you make when starting as a consultant/freelancer?

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it better to charge per project or per hour?

Per project is dangerous. Consulting clients will change their minds frequently and you'll want to give them the latitude to do so, which means you simply can't estimate the time needed to complete a project without adding X00% on top to compensate. No one wants to have the "this is out of scope, I'm happy to do it but we need to talk about an amendment..." conversation. Per hour is not adequate for this type of work…

Strongly agree with this, over hourly or project-based. I do monthly instead of weekly, but idea is the same.

One thing I disagree with is the automatic-discount thing. Firstly, I think it's cheesy. Makes me think of street vendors saying "...But just for YOU, I have a SPECIAL price!" Secondly, I think it cheapens the perceived value. As in, "Why is Joe throwing around 20% discounts? Is he desperate? Is he not confident in his abilities?" Etc.

Re: Ask HN: What mistakes did you make when starting as a consultant/freelancer?

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Didn't charge enough.

Didn't market. Didn't network.

Didn't constantly hustle for clients.

Didn't outsource scut work.

Didn't down tools when clients were slow to pay.

Didn't develop/maintain a backlog of client work.

Didn't reject fixed price contracts.

Didn't renegotiate when projects changed beyond contracted scope.

Didn't filter free consults against probability they'd turn into a contract.

Didn't have my heart in it (and have since stopped).

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