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Re: Low-Cost VPS Testing

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Post by perennate »

bullen wrote: post #46

I'm surprised that smaller companies have not moved away from static pricing yet. We need to introduce a common way of comparing these say: GHz CPU-core day, MB RAM day, MB SSD WRITE, GB SSD READ / NET? Like this works now you're always comparing apples and oranges and maybe that is the way Amazon and Google (both on KVM now!) wants it? Few small operators in Dallas, Kansas and Nuremberg are well placed for latency s…

There is https://www.serverhunter.com/ but really reviews like this are better because metrics like CPU-core and instantaneous disk speeds won't necessarily tell you about the consistency in network, disk, and CPU performance over a long period, and the supported features. It is not like AWS and Google Cloud where you can expect stable performance.

There is also https://www.vpsbenchmarks.com/ which conducts regular tests and may give a more complete picture.

Re: Low-Cost VPS Testing

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Post by exikyut »

Two related questions not answered in this article:

- Where can I find good low-cost KVM with decent monthly bandwidth in Australia? Primarily want a remote fast Linux/VNC desktop (which will chew a lot of bandwidth), and want bandwidth left over to actually do things with.

- There's no mention of Oracle's always-free cloud offerings (100GB disk, 1GB RAM, 10TB bandwidth). Interested to hear what people think of this.

Re: Low-Cost VPS Testing

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Post by drewnick »

ivoecpereira wrote: post #48
AtroxDev wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I fully agree with this. I'm using Cloud Run since the day it got into beta and never been happier. It beats all the other platforms (for docker) IMO.

Out of curiosity, what are you using for your databases?

Not OP but I can setup DB of choice on an instance or group of instances and access directly from the Cloud Run containers. Our particular main stack is on MongoDB 3.4 so we deployed Atlas on the VPC and the containers access it just fine.

Re: Low-Cost VPS Testing

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Post by bgwhn »

bullen wrote: post #46

I'm surprised that smaller companies have not moved away from static pricing yet. We need to introduce a common way of comparing these say: GHz CPU-core day, MB RAM day, MB SSD WRITE, GB SSD READ / NET? Like this works now you're always comparing apples and oranges and maybe that is the way Amazon and Google (both on KVM now!) wants it? Few small operators in Dallas, Kansas and Nuremberg are well placed for latency s…

> I'm surprised that smaller companies have not moved away from static pricing yet.

The physical server has a fixed set of resources. If you let customers pick what resource they want to buy, you'll run out of one resource before the rest, leaving the server underutilized and increasing your costs. You can't sell KVM instances with no ram, no disk, or no CPU.

If you have enough physical servers and small enough customers, you can mostly solve this by carefully figuring out which customers to put on which machines. However, you've created a complicated jigsaw puzzle. And what happens if you need to shift customers between servers to balance things out?

I think Google is able to offer custom machine types because they're big enough, and because they're able to perform live migrations between physical hosts (most hosting providers can't do this), so the customer likely won't even notice if they need to be migrated.

Instead, most of these providers offer a few different SKUs to satisfy different use-cases, or they just pick one target market (e.g. lots of disk space for backups or lots of CPU resource for compute) and focus on that. A few offer networked block storage, which gives some more flexibility, but at the (potential) cost of reliability and performance.

> None in Asia though? You need it to be in Taiwan to service the region well!

Bandwidth in Asia is significantly more expensive (https://blog.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-costs-around-the-world...), so most budget hosting providers stay away.

Re: Low-Cost VPS Testing

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Post by skunkworker »

benbristow wrote: post #5

Been using DigitalOcean for a while now with a Dokku setup and running multiple sites/apps on it. Excellent uptime and very good connectivity, great interface and the pricing is very fair. Even moved a client to them with no real issues. Would definitely recommend for a developer looking to get themselves online with a limited budget.

My only gripe with DO is the stability for some of their regions. Some of them have been solid and only have minor outages, but others like one of the ones in AMS has had intermittent issues. For me their most attractive product is the DO spaces and is a quick drop in for S3.

But in all I like their servers and I go between the guides from DO and Linode to setup services that I’m unfamiliar with.

Re: Low-Cost VPS Testing

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Post by berkut »

amanzi wrote: post #44

For those of us in NZ, there are only three providers on the list of "good" or "really good" that have a presence in Sydney: Vultr ( https://www.vultr.com/ ), Linode ( https://www.linode.com ), and VPS Server ( https://www.vpsserver.com/ ).

I'm in NZ, and Vultr has been awesome for me, although no block storage in Sydney...

AWS is available (with Lightsail as well) in Sydney as well (albeit with reduced bandwidth compared to other regions for the pricing).

Re: Low-Cost VPS Testing

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

exikyut wrote: post #52

Two related questions not answered in this article: - Where can I find good low-cost KVM with decent monthly bandwidth in Australia? Primarily want a remote fast Linux/VNC desktop (which will chew a lot of bandwidth), and want bandwidth left over to actually do things with. - There's no mention of Oracle's always-free cloud offerings (100GB disk, 1GB RAM, 10TB bandwidth). Interested to hear what people think of this.

> Oracle's always-free cloud offerings (100GB disk, 1GB RAM, 10TB bandwidth). Interested to hear what people think of this.

It's Oracle; wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.

Re: Low-Cost VPS Testing

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Post by ldoughty »

thesandlord wrote: post #12
asdkhadsj wrote: post #3

I can't wait for PaaS prices to drop. I know they'll always be relatively expensive, but I'm primarily a dev (not ops) and I don't have the time nor desire to manage my own servers securely. Heroku lately has seemed a tempting offer, assuming I can run my apps on it (Rust based) , but at $7/m for little side projects it felt.. expensive for a no user side project. They can add up. A $5/m DO box can host quite a few a…

Give Google Cloud Run a try. Can run any Docker container, and billing is per request. It is basically a fully managed knative. https://cloud.google.com/run My side projects all run for free. (I work for Google Cloud)

Cloud run looks cool, but doesn't seem to support databases ? Unless it supports linked containers?

I like that it's a mix of AWS lambda scaling with more open environments... Though it's hard to read through the marketing... "Nearly instance availing from 1 to 1000"

Re: Low-Cost VPS Testing

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Post by mirimir »

For those who want to lease ~anonymously with payment by Bitcoin:

   BitHost     OK cpu and ram   OK uplink     overpriced
   CockBox     OK cpu and ram   slow uplink   OK price
   HostSailor  OK cpu and ram   fast uplink   OK price
   VPS.BG      OK cpu and ram   OK uplink     OK price
BitHost is a Digital Ocean reseller.
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