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Re: No to Chrome

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Post by zzo38computer »

atomi wrote: post #284
azdv wrote: post #76

Interesting, I just moved back to Firefox after many years of using Chrome. I have to admit, it has gotten a lot faster recently, Firefox sync is working very well, and the Firefox Android app is a pleasure to use (being able to install uBlock origin is a huge plus). Anything else I missed on Chrome was easily solved by an addon, or a small tweak on userChrome.css (customizing the browser interface by overriding its…

On Firefox, one thing that really bothers me still is that it's impossible to remove a root domain entry from the omnibox. Like if I type "re" it completes to reddit.com even though I've deleted that entry. Chrome will respect the deletion and complete to reddit.com/r/all.

I don't know how exactly it works, but I do not have that problem.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by zzo38computer »

oefrha wrote: post #137
azdv wrote: post #76

Interesting, I just moved back to Firefox after many years of using Chrome. I have to admit, it has gotten a lot faster recently, Firefox sync is working very well, and the Firefox Android app is a pleasure to use (being able to install uBlock origin is a huge plus). Anything else I missed on Chrome was easily solved by an addon, or a small tweak on userChrome.css (customizing the browser interface by overriding its…

I can’t solve highlighting search results in the scroll bar, and apparently I search a surprising amount and am absolutely crippled without scroll bar highlighting, so I’ll stick to Chrome until I can’t (e.g. when content blocking is crippled).

There are such feature different people like.

A feature I cannot do without is the web developer console; much of the modern web pages are bad without it.

The older XPCOM-based extensions also are more powerful than the WebExtensions and can do many more things (I don't like the design of XPCOM, but nevertheless WebExtensions isn't very good either). Such as, I can alter the behaviour of the location bar; I don't like the default behaviour and I want it to treat my entry as a relative URL (rather than trying to add the scheme automatically or treat it as a search query), so I programmed it to do that.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by RonanTheGrey »

digitarald wrote: post #184
RoryH wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a web dev, I find the FF dev tools a good bit less performant, but I still try to use it always without reverting to Chrome.. The one feature I have not found in FF dev tools is Search, this is very handy for find random JavaScript on a JS heavy site. Edit: This post prompted me to Google for it: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Debugger/How_... Move along, nothing to see.. :-\

Also, Network full-test search is now in the Network panel

Well, I need to try the FF dev tools again, it's been about a year since I did and they were missing some critical things.

Looking good, will give it another go.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by RonanTheGrey »

arunmib wrote: post #78
lallysingh wrote: post #48

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OpenStreetMap had solid data, but my periodic attempts at finding a good app haven't been successful.

There is Mapquest (based on mapbox) it is surprisingly good and works well for nearly most of my use cases.

I live outside the US and struggle with a good mapping solution... I make a point to stick with Apple Maps on my phone but sometimes I am forced to resort to Google Maps to find some place I know exists but Apple Maps doesn't have it :/

So I just tried Mapquest and it had the same problem :(

Google's mapping dominance outside the US is really only challenged by Bing maps... which I can't get on iOS. Nearest is HERE maps but it's not quite the same product.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by mrbonner »

I love Firefox and moved back from Chrome in 2018. But, occasionally there are websites that just don't work in Firefox and work in Chrome/Safari. For example, go to https://my.t-mobile.com And I will see:

502 Bad Gateway The server returned an invalid or incomplete response.

Firefox Web Console reports an error: "The character encoding of the HTML document was not declared. The document will render with garbled text in some browser configurations if the document contains characters from outside the US-ASCII range. The character encoding of the page must be declared in the document or in the transfer protocol."

I'm not sure at this point what the issue could be, and why it works for Chrome/Safari. I don't have any extensions that could alter the requests or responses (i.e https everywhere, CORS, etc...)

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by RonanTheGrey »

Diederich wrote: post #215
Antoninus wrote: post #21

I’m quite satisfied with my move away from google products. Moved from gmail to protonmail. Chrome to firefox and search to ddg. Ddg isn’t perfect though and I find myself using !g tag more often than I’d like.

> Moved from gmail to protonmail Obligatory mention of https://fastmail.fm/ I've been using the paid version (it's quite inexpensive) for over a decade now and it remains fantastic.

Thank you kind soul, I was investigating email solutions to replace gmail, had fastmail in my list of open tabs and lost all of them due to a crash and couldn't remember what it was called.

Yay!

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by RonanTheGrey »

lcall wrote: post #279

I still use Chromium (and Iridium, a derivative that hopefully doesn't send info to Google), specifically on OpenBSD, for reasons summarized here (lower chance of privilege escalation, limiting bad behavior): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21566041 (...and discussed further in the parents of the above link, like: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21559122 or the full recent related discussion here: https://n…

> to limit which sites can use javascript/images/etc

The new privacy tools allow you to tune this from the url bar, but I think it only applies to cookies, javascript and trackers.

> and/or to open multiple config tabs at once

yeah that's the sticky part. It only allows one open config tab unfortunately.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by RonanTheGrey »

purple_ducks wrote: post #275
digitarald wrote: post #178

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Firefox DevTools member here. If you have tried them recently, I'd love your feedback on what's blocking you.

not op - 1 click clear storage/site data button. Do any of the firefox devs use chrome dev tools to see what's missing in FF/nice to have?

Agree with this. Clearing site data is more verbose than it needs to be.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by tomaszs »

mxuribe wrote: post #156
tomaszs wrote: post #53

Less Google, more internet. Simple as that

If by "internet" you mean the more traditional thought of internet with all of its decentralized goodness (and services and such), then YES 1000 times!!

This is exactly what i think of. Internet can become do much more than it is now

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by donaltroddyn »

digitarald wrote: post #113
donaltroddyn wrote: post #52

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In terms of browsers, I have moved back to Firefox from Google for my personal/professional browsing, but I have a product that is heavily reliant on Puppeteer and CDP. There are moves towards interoperability in Firefox, but that's my current blocker.

Firefox DevTools member here. We are looking into Puppeteer/CDP – what is the product you depend on? If you can't post it here, feel free to email me [nickname] at mozilla org

Badly worded on my part, but it's my own product. I use Puppeteer to run headless Chrome instances in AWS Lambda to evaluate the network traffic associated with advertising data collection. I have a toolchain built around Puppeteer and CDP, which is in use by customers, so migration isn't a viable option for me.
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