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Hitler didn't start murdering jews in mass until after he invaded countries.
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That's not censorship. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship The criminal co-opting of networks and nodes on those networks is not speech by any definition.
That's not the issue. The issue is that there is speech accompanying the malware, which should not be systematically censored. (Though any individual is free to do so for themselves.)
> The issue is that there is speech accompanying the malware
I'm either misunderstanding what you're saying, or it doesn't make sense. If a bunch of people take signs (with legitimate messages, free speech) and hang them off a bridge over the highway (causing accidents), then those people go jail. The fact that their message is free speech is irrelevant. The source of the message is being punished/jailed, not the message.
Am I mis-representing your statement?
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#343This should be mitigated by browser vendors by integrating HTTPSEverywhere as a core functionality of the browser that needs to be explicitly turned off (instead of the current state of affairs where we have a tiny minority on the web who are familiar with installing security add-ons). Visiting a HTTP site should come with a scary warning. I understand this throws old sites under the bus, but there could be other sol…
> This should be mitigated by browser vendors by integrating HTTPSEverywhere as a core functionality of the browser that needs to be explicitly turned off (instead of the current state of affairs where we have a tiny minority on the web who are familiar with installing security add-ons). We're talking about China, so that's probably not going to work: Chinese users are using Chinese browsers [1] to access Chinese web…
That's fine. If the Chinese government wants to commandeer their own citizen's resources to DDoS other people, that's on them. They could very well also direct their state controlled ISPs to do the same. Doing either would be obviously be attributed to them and would be cause for them to be de-peered - solving the problem.
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#344So if the cannon is created using the great firewall, how does the Chinese government establish any sort of plausible argument that this isn't state-sponsored activity? Do they just not care? Some day soon a war will not be started with an assassins bullet but with a tool like this. I wonder when we start looking at them the same way?
War seems to progress as follows: 0 - Peace 1 - Trade War 2 - Financial War 3 - Electronic War 4 - Shooting War Note that 1 & 2 are different types of Economic war, and could be grouped together. The steps occur in order, but steps can be skipped. From a US-centric point of view, North Korea and Iran seem to be at #3. China & Russia are at a limited version of #2. Chinese/HK seem to be at #3 with each other.Given how…
> 0 - Peace 1 - Trade War 2 - Financial War 3 - Electronic War 4 - Shooting War
How many major wars in the last 100 years were preceded by trade wars or electronic wars (I don't know what a financial war is, trade embargoes? - embargoes are not trade wars)? Perhaps my view is a bit us-centric (there have been many small wars in africa that I don't know the history of), but I don't think that us conflict participation in Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Grenada, Vietnam, Korea, WWII, or WWI were preceded by those sorts of policies. To find a trade war that preceded a war I think you might have to go to the US fighting in central america (banana wars), or maybe the civil war.
Meanwhile the US has engaged in trade wars with plenty of countries it hasn't fought with, dominantly europe (via the banana trade wars, not to be confused with banana wars, e.g.), and Japan.
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#345This should be mitigated by browser vendors by integrating HTTPSEverywhere as a core functionality of the browser that needs to be explicitly turned off (instead of the current state of affairs where we have a tiny minority on the web who are familiar with installing security add-ons). Visiting a HTTP site should come with a scary warning. I understand this throws old sites under the bus, but there could be other sol…
I think China's government requires websites to give them their private keys. HTTPS is useless then.
And what do you think happens to sites caught serving malware? They get put on safebrowsing blacklists. That problem solves itself.
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#346This should be mitigated by browser vendors by integrating HTTPSEverywhere as a core functionality of the browser that needs to be explicitly turned off (instead of the current state of affairs where we have a tiny minority on the web who are familiar with installing security add-ons). Visiting a HTTP site should come with a scary warning. I understand this throws old sites under the bus, but there could be other sol…
>and in case I'm totally wrong, what mitigations are feasible? More trade war such as by compelling ISP's to null-route Chinese businesses like Baidu.com as a form of sanction?
A slightly less broad measure that's just as effective would be to block unencrypted http traffic from entering China. Want to get unblocked? Get letsencrypt.
A even better (but slightly greyhat) route would be to inject HSTS headers with the maximum expiry date. This will cause any visitor's browsers to get "infected" with an unskippable warning, forcing them to upgrade no matter what.
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#347Am I the only one disappointed this wasn't about someone refurbishing the Dardanelles Gun?
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I don't know who to attribute this to but I've heard a saying: "Countries that trade with each other don't make war with each other." As we isolate countries and disrupt trade we definitely are increasing the risk of conflict.
Yes, who cares about the forced labor camps and suicide nets around factories. I want my cheap plastic consumer devices!!
A car park in the UK closed off the top storey and it's common to see older MSCPs adding tall fences to the top floor, and for new buildings to have these designed in from the start.
Page 25 (but see also page 23) https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...
Fencing off tall buildings is a useful short-term suicide prevention measure.
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Wait, didn’t that happen though? I thought the arch duke was originally supposed to be killed in a failed bombing, and the handgun was a second and happenstance scenario.
There was a royal procession to City Hall in Sarajevo, during which a grenade was thrown at the Archduke. It (barely) missed, they drove off, and had a meeting with some local magistrate. After the meeting, Franz wanted to travel to the hospital to visit the civilians who'd been wounded by the errant grenade. En route, his driver, confused, took the same route from the morning procession. When they realized what was…
My middle school history teacher always stressed the point about reasons vs. triggers for events, and it has stuck to me since then, as it makes looking at things like this much easier. Basically, there is a giant list of political reasons for the Great War, I am not gonna list all of them here, but I fully agree with you that the assassination was not one of them. Franz Ferdinand's assassination was the trigger.
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Ad blockers still remove them. They have tried not to and the users intentionally moved to ad blockers that still did. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adblock_Plus#Controversy_over_...
Also, aside from the two HNers who claim they actually do, nobody is turning off their adblocker as they go to see if a given site has acceptable ads.
Is there a blocklist that permits acceptable ads?