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Re: No to Chrome

#271

Not really well argued (not at all actually) for a non-techie user who at most does email, youtube, work and shopping... They are probably 99%. The site feels like it's authored with a tin-foil hat on.

I agree with this.

While I agree with the rhetoric of this site, this site really is just empty rhetoric.

The "why" on this site is, in my opinion, a terrible, ineffective, dogmatic argument. I agree with the dogma, but I'm not the one that needs convincing.

Re: No to Chrome

#272
If the only reason to not use Chrome is Google, then you are in luck because Chromium is open source software with a permissive license. There are several libre forks of it, the best-maintained one being Brave. Nightly builds of plain Chromium are available from googlesource. You could also get community builds of Chromium from many package managers. You would only have to rely on Google for the extensions store, but that's not any worse than Firefox's case because there is only one source for Mozilla addons as well.

So for me to switch from Chromium to Firefox would require an argument on technical or UX merits, and so far Firefox is currently worse across the board.

https://arewefastyet.com/

Re: No to Chrome

#273

Safari is my default browser and it works for me, along with DDG. I may switch to Firefox at some point, but currently there's a long standing bug that breaks audio with multi-channel audio interfaces (FF does not adhere to the mac system output channel settings and instead defaults to channels 1-2) The only site I need chrome to use is google meet, naturally. Which, if you've turned on automatic closed captioning an…

Do Apple/Safari offer great privacy?

Re: No to Chrome

#274
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Interesting, I just moved back to Firefox after many years of using Chrome. I have to admit, it has gotten a lot faster recently, Firefox sync is working very well, and the Firefox Android app is a pleasure to use (being able to install uBlock origin is a huge plus). Anything else I missed on Chrome was easily solved by an addon, or a small tweak on userChrome.css (customizing the browser interface by overriding its…

I can’t solve highlighting search results in the scroll bar, and apparently I search a surprising amount and am absolutely crippled without scroll bar highlighting, so I’ll stick to Chrome until I can’t (e.g. when content blocking is crippled).

It is mind-boggling that people find their browser experience “crippling” without a feature like scroll bar highlighting. Is it hyperbole, or are you unable to cope in e.g., PDF readers as well? Is your line of work in visually investigating the appearance of words in 1000 page HTML documents?

Re: No to Chrome

#275
post #71

Chrome/ium is a wonderful web development environment. Can't see myself moving away from it any time soon.

Firefox DevTools member here. If you have tried them recently, I'd love your feedback on what's blocking you.

not op - 1 click clear storage/site data button.

Do any of the firefox devs use chrome dev tools to see what's missing in FF/nice to have?

Re: No to Chrome

#276
post #137

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I can’t solve highlighting search results in the scroll bar, and apparently I search a surprising amount and am absolutely crippled without scroll bar highlighting, so I’ll stick to Chrome until I can’t (e.g. when content blocking is crippled).

It is mind-boggling that people find their browser experience “crippling” without a feature like scroll bar highlighting. Is it hyperbole, or are you unable to cope in e.g., PDF readers as well? Is your line of work in visually investigating the appearance of words in 1000 page HTML documents?

Where did you get the idea that my PDF readers don’t have this feature? You might want to look into a better PDF reader... (Having a dedicated bar with results grouped by page is basically equivalent.)

Btw, I can code in TextEdit too, but I don’t because I have programmer’s text editors. Same goes for a web browser and its convenience features.

Re: No to Chrome

#277
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Super evil Corp is evil but this one feature is overrides all that so I choose them. Really? That's not true. That's not why. That is not worth it. That math does not work out.

Yeah, I totally need your judgement on whether my choice is worthwhile. Hint: nope.

It's not judgement. It's objective math. You said something that did not equate. You know you should switch. You made an excuse. You got called out.

Re: No to Chrome

#278
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Then go with Brave. They stripped out the Google bits, and they won't remove support for the current uBlock Origin ad blocker.

Why Brave rather than the Epic Privacy Browser? (They are both based on Chromium....)

Because Epic is purely "private browsing" a.k.a. constant "porn mode." Painful to use at sites you want to remember you.

Re: No to Chrome

#279
I still use Chromium (and Iridium, a derivative that hopefully doesn't send info to Google), specifically on OpenBSD, for reasons summarized here (lower chance of privilege escalation, limiting bad behavior): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21566041

(...and discussed further in the parents of the above link, like: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21559122 or the full recent related discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21557309 ).

Given which, I might switch to Firefox for some uses after the next OpenBSD release where it will have pledlge/unveil support (preventing it from accessing the computer beyond config-specified limits).

Edit: One thing I wish I knew about firefox is a way, without extensions/add-ons, to limit which sites can use javascript/images/etc., and/or to open multiple config tabs at once to quickly turn those on by exception for occasional specific sites, as I do with chrome. Exception lists, even better. This was discussed a little bit at those above links.

Re: No to Chrome

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The comments from noel@chromium.org in this bug report are scary. "We're not doing as the spec tells us to, BUT that probably gives us performance gains, most users don't care about it anyway, I prefer it that way, webdevs should fix it, we should fix the JPEG standard instead (!?)..." Why so much resistance?

> most users don't care about it anyway Our designer was pissed off when we discovered this bug, which explained why Chrome was the only program that displayed RGB values differently from all the others (not just browsers). She'd been careful about standardizing and tweaking colors we already used to work better for people with colorblindness, much of which was thrown out the window on Chrome. Not to mention issues m…

It's not gone but it's going away 3 weeks from now. It's disabled but you can enable it.

This is based on my experience with Chromium (I don't use Chrome.)

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