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"Keep that shit out of code", you say, while software services take millions of dollars in government contracts, and spend millions more lobbying. Like ???????????
Taking a government contract is not the same as politicizing code.
An open letter to GitHub from the maintainers of open source projects
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Re: An open letter to GitHub from the maintainers of open source projects
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Increasingly people (esp. Millennials) consider ethics and values toward the top when deciding whether to purchase or use a product. Why wouldn't they get together and shame a company when that company acts against their own moral values? Is the best possible solution to wait until the first Tuesday in November and hope for the best? I am sure many will also vote, call their elected officials, go to a protest. They'l…
How about funding GitHub so it has the ability to be picky and choosey about its contracts? It’s really easy to voice concern. But github can’t fund itself on concern.
Re: An open letter to GitHub from the maintainers of open source projects
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How about funding GitHub so it has the ability to be picky and choosey about its contracts? It’s really easy to voice concern. But github can’t fund itself on concern.
Github is owned by Microsoft, and was purchased for ~8 billion dollars.
Drafting an online petition like this is not too far off from storming someone’s place of work and asking them to forego their main means of survival. I understand the outrage over human rights abuses, but this isn’t the forum.
Re: An open letter to GitHub from the maintainers of open source projects
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How about funding GitHub so it has the ability to be picky and choosey about its contracts? It’s really easy to voice concern. But github can’t fund itself on concern.
Considering its size and popularity, why exactly can GitHub not be picky and choosey?
Re: An open letter to GitHub from the maintainers of open source projects
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about funding GitHub so it has the ability to be picky and choosey about its contracts? It’s really easy to voice concern. But github can’t fund itself on concern.
It would be interesting to see a dollar value next to each signature to indicate how much money GitHub stands to lose if the signatory were to take their business elsewhere.
Vote, protest [2], run for office [2]. No other actions provide for material change.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21274511 (Gitlab: don't discuss politics at work )
[2] https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_pdf_file/kyr_...
Re: An open letter to GitHub from the maintainers of open source projects
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Github is owned by Microsoft, and was purchased for ~8 billion dollars.
I would strongly suggest people take their political concerns to the appropriate channels - write your representatives, be active in local town council meetings, stay informed on things that civic duty requires in the US (which is expensive, btw!), and vote. It might seem pointless, but all of those things do actually matter and have measurable impacts. Your representatives do actually listen to you if you vote for o…
Yes it is the forum. No it's absolutely nothing like telling someone to "forego their means of survival".
Re: An open letter to GitHub from the maintainers of open source projects
#37These open source projects certainly love the very high quality, free services Github offers them, until they start learning how the sausage is made. ICE has done, and continues to do some terrible things. Horrible, horrible things; all legal things, but nonetheless horrible. But, frankly, if its legal, I am much less comfortable with Github's users subverting the US legal system by backdooring their moral code into…
https://www.clearinghouse.net/detail.php?id=15649
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/02/how-badly-did-cb...
https://www.opb.org/news/article/ice-courthouse-arrest-ban-o...
https://www.aclu.org/cases/escobar-v-gaines
https://www.aclu.org/cases/colotl-v-kelly
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/ice-agents-...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/us/ice-detains-woman-cali...
https://www.aclumich.org/en/press-releases/aclu-sues-ice-us-...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/francisco-galicia-ice-releases-...
https://www.aclu.org/cases/immigrants-rights/morales-v-chadb...
https://www.propublica.org/article/pennsylvania-ice-who-poli...
etc. etc. etc.
Re: An open letter to GitHub from the maintainers of open source projects
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Github is owned by Microsoft, and was purchased for ~8 billion dollars.
I would strongly suggest people take their political concerns to the appropriate channels - write your representatives, be active in local town council meetings, stay informed on things that civic duty requires in the US (which is expensive, btw!), and vote. It might seem pointless, but all of those things do actually matter and have measurable impacts. Your representatives do actually listen to you if you vote for o…
Re: An open letter to GitHub from the maintainers of open source projects
#39It's common for especially B2C corporations to have highly documented CSR policies. They will not work with suppliers that perform testing on animals. Or employ child workers. And they will not work with suppliers who have suppliers that do those things. The entire chain is potentially audited. I approve of this concept and I vote with my wallet.
This situation, however, is different. Whereas companies choose suppliers, they don't really choose customers. At least by some definition, the customers choose them. I know that this gets muddy because sales, but still. And I don't like the idea that companies should start auditing their customers. What if some company that deals with ICE uses Github? Or say someone who used to work at ICE formed a company -- is that company in the clear? Doesn't seem like a viable direction to me.