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Freedom of expression is at a ten-year low globally, study says

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Even when governments don’t limit freedom of expression we do it to ourselves as can be seen with all the Twitter mobs.

Those "mobs" are only ordinary people exercising their own freedom of expression online. I think a more correct sentiment would be that even when there are governments that don't want to limit freedom of expression, multinational corporations will still oblige those governments and influential citizens that do.

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Re: Freedom of expression is at a ten-year low globally, study says

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post #15

Even when governments don’t limit freedom of expression we do it to ourselves as can be seen with all the Twitter mobs.

Those "mobs" are only ordinary people exercising their own freedom of expression online. I think a more correct sentiment would be that even when there are governments that don't want to limit freedom of expression, multinational corporations will still oblige those governments and influential citizens that do.

Oh, fuck right off. Ordinary people aren't being dicks on twitter - it's a tiny minority of broken anglosphere cunts with nothing better to do than to ruin other people's lives.

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Remember that the journalist who exposed the panama papers was killed in a car bomb.

Source?

Just google the text of the message, wikipedia is the top link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphne_Caruana_Galizia

Re: Freedom of expression is at a ten-year low globally, study says

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Even when governments don’t limit freedom of expression we do it to ourselves as can be seen with all the Twitter mobs.

It's such an important distinction though. When people do it, it's just dissenting voices. When a platform removes someone, they can just find another platform. Twitter doesn't owe anyone a voice on it.

But when the government says you can't talk about a thing, they can make you take it down everywhere. Only this is protected, and this line needs to not be crossed.

I little sympathy for people getting upset at being deplatformed - they can go elsewhere, and their cries of freedom of expression cry wolf to the constitutional issue of those in power doing actual oppression.

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In addition to government interference in free speech, all actions/words that offend have potentially life devastating consequences in this age of the digital permanent record. Suppose you slap someone in a moment of uncontrolled anger. If someone records that, posts it on the internet, and it goes viral, you then become the mad slapper in the eyes of the world. If someone googles your name, they will see you slappin…

We need to declare all speech religious speech. Politics is religion. One religion currently has the upper hand, and it's dividing people.

Which religion would that be?

Re: Freedom of expression is at a ten-year low globally, study says

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In addition to government interference in free speech, all actions/words that offend have potentially life devastating consequences in this age of the digital permanent record. Suppose you slap someone in a moment of uncontrolled anger. If someone records that, posts it on the internet, and it goes viral, you then become the mad slapper in the eyes of the world. If someone googles your name, they will see you slappin…

We do have laws to limit free speech in good and specific ways. You can't slander a person who isn't famous, for example, or incite violence against specific people or groups. And most of the cries of free speech being violated aren't really about the first amendment. Most are just people being deplatformed, which is a reminder that YouTube is just Google. It's a company, not a public space.

Re: Freedom of expression is at a ten-year low globally, study says

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In addition to government interference in free speech, all actions/words that offend have potentially life devastating consequences in this age of the digital permanent record. Suppose you slap someone in a moment of uncontrolled anger. If someone records that, posts it on the internet, and it goes viral, you then become the mad slapper in the eyes of the world. If someone googles your name, they will see you slappin…

Maybe you shouldn't assault people if you don't want to be known for assault? Slap or not, hitting someone in a fit of anger is assault, full stop.

Even people which have been 'cancelled' for things that aren't assault still end up going on to have their career mostly unaffected unless they did something really henious.

Re: Freedom of expression is at a ten-year low globally, study says

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> Governments in a number of countries have been increasing online surveillance and cracking down on content and behavior that indicates dissent, the report says. This is a really sad state of affairs. Because of whatever reasons (monetary, fear of dissent and terrorism, etc.) we've seen governments implement more and more laws and policies that take away the "freedom" that we're supposed to have in a democracy. Peop…

More and more "the people" want corporations to do the policing. Everyone cheers when someone controversial is booted from Twitter, but suddenly it'ss a problem when the NBA and Blizzard censored people, albeit for less defensible reasons.

Yes, because not all speech is the same and we needn’t treat it as such. There’s a difference between someone getting kicked out of a bar for antagonizing other patrons vs. because the owner doesn’t like their shoes.
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