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Re: No to Chrome

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Post by jacobmoe » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 2:21 PM UTC

jmstfv wrote: post #15

qxnqd wrote: post #11

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Try Safari and/or Brave

I was using Safari up until they have yanked support for extensions. The web is unusable, outright hostile place without a proper script blocker. I can tolerate a lot of things, but browsing the web without uBlockOrigin isn't one of them.

I'm loving pihole https://pi-hole.net/

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by quotha » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 2:21 PM UTC

Does anyone use the Brave browser? I started a few days ago and it's a pretty interesting idea.

Re: No to Chrome

#123

Post by eganist » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 2:23 PM UTC

jefftk wrote: post #94

Braggadocious wrote: post #85

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it's literally the same engine as chrome. the only reason i use chrome is for the dev tools.

Firefox uses the Gecko engine, while Chrome uses Blink. The engines don't even have a shared ancestor.

OP may be confusing Edge/Brave/Opera with Firefox here, so I can't really blame them for having had the impression that Firefox and Chrome share the same engine.

And in at least one regard it's entirely true: on iOS, everything uses WebKit.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by scholia » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 2:23 PM UTC

FussyZeus wrote: post #108

S_A_P wrote: post #56

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More specifically, they blocked extensions that work a certain way. The deal breaker for me was when uBlock origin was no longer able to run. I immediately switched to Firefox and Brave.

I have uBlock running on Safari...? Newest version. Or is uBlock not the same as uBlock origin?

No, uBlock is not the same as uBlock Origin.

Quote:

In July 2018, uBlock.org was acquired by AdBlock,[19] and began allowing "Acceptable Ads",[20] a program run by Adblock Plus that allows some ads which are deemed "acceptable", and the publisher pays Adblock Plus.[21]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UBlock_Origin

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by Majestic121 » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 2:23 PM UTC

dobleboble wrote: post #100

Ayesh wrote: post #92

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No it's not.

It's better to provide facts and references rather than just making opposing statements.

The burden of proof is for the original statement ("it's literally the same engine"), not the counter.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by RoryH » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 2:25 PM UTC

philliphaydon wrote: post #88

Braggadocious wrote: post #85

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it's literally the same engine as chrome. the only reason i use chrome is for the dev tools.

FF just got web socket inspectors so I really don't know what chrome dev tools has now. Everything about ff dev tools is better. Especially looking at css layouts.

As a web dev, I find the FF dev tools a good bit less performant, but I still try to use it always without reverting to Chrome.. The one feature I have not found in FF dev tools is Search, this is very handy for find random JavaScript on a JS heavy site.

Edit: This post prompted me to Google for it: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Debugger/How_...

Move along, nothing to see.. :-\

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 2:25 PM UTC

jakelazaroff wrote: post #109

tyingq wrote: post #19

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Their apis only support declarative static blocking lists. No heuristics, right click to block, IAB ad size detection, etc. Similar to what chrome plans to do with manifest v3. Advertisers are already figuring out how to get around that. CNAME cloacking, proxying with same domain, etc.

But on the other hand, it prevents malicious extensions from exfiltrating your browsing data.

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Re: No to Chrome

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Post by dredmorbius » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 2:26 PM UTC

reportgunner wrote: post #55

ropiwqefjnpoa wrote: post #25

Even if you have no issue with Google, this is still a good idea to encourage competition. Honestly, Chrome is not as good as it used to be anyway. For me, Google Maps and Waze are the hardest things to kick. And YouTube...

Try blocking all images on Youtube so you won't see thumbnails. It helps a ton.

I've CSS-blocked the Suggestions and Comments sections, which is wonderful.

Of late, I mostly use https://invidio.us

DDG bang: !invidious

Not as short as !yt, but it's there and works.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by PretzelFisch » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 2:27 PM UTC

Is it better to push people to firefox and safari or include Opera and Edge as well so we don't get another defacto standard?

Re: No to Chrome

#130

Post by FussyZeus » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 2:27 PM UTC

scholia wrote: post #124

FussyZeus wrote: post #108

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I have uBlock running on Safari...? Newest version. Or is uBlock not the same as uBlock origin?

No, uBlock is not the same as uBlock Origin. Quote: In July 2018, uBlock.org was acquired by AdBlock,[19] and began allowing "Acceptable Ads",[20] a program run by Adblock Plus that allows some ads which are deemed "acceptable", and the publisher pays Adblock Plus.[21] EndQuote https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UBlock_Origin

Well, damnit. Thanks for the info.