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I documented every surveillance camera on my way to work in New York City

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Re: I documented every surveillance camera on my way to work in New York City

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Content aside, this article is really well formatted. Going photo by photo, camera by camera puts me in the shoes of the author, and frankly gives me the same feeling I had when I first read 1984 (especially when he mentioned the sky was fittingly grey).

I just country the number of cameras i saw while going to lunch from my office. It's an under 300 meter walk, and I saw 16 cameras, in a supposedly privacy friendly country like Germany.

Re: I documented every surveillance camera on my way to work in New York City

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One thing that I always wondered is if people just ignore the cameras. Once I got called for questioning on a local retail store, since I was with enough free time and a good mood, so I just went with it. So the reason I was called was that the security guard noticed that I was looking at all security cameras which made me seem suspicious, my only answer was "well they're distracting". Anyway there was no other irreg…

From the people who are not familiar with studies conducted in the software usability labs, quite a common question is - Aren't test participant aware of the very visible camera pointed at them and the monitor and therefore they would not be at their natural self?

The answer is the test participants forget that there are cameras once they start on a task.

I guess same thing is true in our daily life, once we are focused on task at hand (grocery shopping, catching bus, or driving safe...) we would stop being aware of things which doesn't come in the way of that task.

Re: I documented every surveillance camera on my way to work in New York City

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the UK there are advertisements on the public transport network that recommend reporting suspicious activity. One of them has a 'plotline' of someone who's taking a photo of a camera. "Are they checking out security" or something like that. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKU8EK5W0AA4dwH.jpg

I honestly can't tell if this is real or not. If it is: what the fuck.

Oh, it's real alright. That's probably the worst one. There are some that are less ridiculous, but they're all quite 'nanny state'.

http://www.glasgowprestwick.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/S...

Trains are the best. Imagine an announcement.

If you see something that doesn't look right, SEE IT, SAY IT, SORTED.

If you see something that doesn't look right, SEE IT, SAY IT, SORTED.

If you see something that doesn't look right, SEE IT, SAY IT, SORTED.

If you see something that doesn't look right, SEE IT, SAY IT, SORTED.

If you see something that doesn't look right, SEE IT, SAY IT, SORTED.

If you see something that doesn't look right, SEE IT, SAY IT, SORTED.

If you see something that doesn't look right, SEE IT, SAY IT, SORTED.

If you see something that doesn't look right, SEE IT, SAY IT, SORTED.

If you see something that doesn't look right, SEE IT, SAY IT, SORTED.

If you see something that doesn't look right, SEE IT, SAY IT, SORTED.

If you see something that doesn't look right, SEE IT, SAY IT, SORTED.

And people say Londoners are antisocial. You're bloody forced to have your headphones on to avoid going insane.

Re: I documented every surveillance camera on my way to work in New York City

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Government? Most of these camera owners weren't government.

Maybe I should have clarified because it seems obvious. In my country you can't point a camera at anything that isn't your property. Which means you can't point it in a way that you can see your neighbours, or on a public street. You're not being filmed or recorded at all times and if you are, you know exactly who is doing it. This is properly enforced in almost all cases exept highways, some public libraries and ent…

Isn't 'pointing at' little nebulous. I may have setup my camera to point at my backyard, but some portion of neighbor's yard may showup in the corner. If I adjust the camera to eliminate this neighbor's yard then the other one's creeps into the view from other side.

For the both the situation my camera is squarely 'pointed at' the center of my backyard.

Re: I documented every surveillance camera on my way to work in New York City

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly can't tell if this is real or not. If it is: what the fuck.

Looks too dystopian to not be true in this day and age. I'm not a native English speaker though and I'm left wondering what that "Sorted" statement at the end of it all really means. "Sort" what out? Why would you need to "sort" a person who's taking photos of video-surveillance cameras? In what way are they going to "sort" those persons out?

It will depend. One of the most valuable diagnostic tools, as border staff will tell you, is to just go be interested in people. So maybe a BTP Officer (British Transport Police) will go ask them why they're taking photos of CCTV Cameras in a railway station or other critical infrastructure.

As constables they're entitled to ask who you are, and what you're up to. They can write it up and it goes into the enormous pile of puzzle pieces for intelligence analysis.

"Taking photos of cameras at major train station" + "Purchased a truck full of fertilizer" + "Attended talk by nutjob entitled 'War to save the white race'" is three completely legal things that add up to let's authorize detailed surveillance because this is a possible terrorist.

Whereas "Taking photos of cameras at major train station" + "Attended Extinction Rebellion March holding banners that said Eat The Rich" + "Wrote angry letter to local politician saying that they'd be judged in their next life for refusing permission for a new vegan bakery" is three other legal things that add up to this is probably just a hippy and we should keep paying attention but there's no immediate threat.

Re: I documented every surveillance camera on my way to work in New York City

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post #15
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly can't tell if this is real or not. If it is: what the fuck.

Looks too dystopian to not be true in this day and age. I'm not a native English speaker though and I'm left wondering what that "Sorted" statement at the end of it all really means. "Sort" what out? Why would you need to "sort" a person who's taking photos of video-surveillance cameras? In what way are they going to "sort" those persons out?

"Sorted" is a word used here to mean that a task has been completed. e.g. "Did you get that thing sorted yet?" "yeah, I sorted it out last week." It can apply to basically anything. You might also simply say "Sorted." as you finish doing whatever it is you're doing, to announce that you are finished. Similar to just saying "Done." or "Finished." in this respect, possibly with the added implication that there was a problem that has now been solved.

Re: I documented every surveillance camera on my way to work in New York City

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post #19

One thing that I always wondered is if people just ignore the cameras. Once I got called for questioning on a local retail store, since I was with enough free time and a good mood, so I just went with it. So the reason I was called was that the security guard noticed that I was looking at all security cameras which made me seem suspicious, my only answer was "well they're distracting". Anyway there was no other irreg…

Some years ago I saw a documentary from a CCTV control room in Rotterdam, Netherlands monitoring busy shopping streets. The operators deemed everyone walking aimlessly as suspicious, and would follow them from camera to camera. At one point a guy was reading from a piece of paper, and the camera zoomed in until the text was clearly readable. Creepy af. The mentality there was, if you feel uncomfortable you probably h…

That goes well with my social anxiety. :p

Re: I documented every surveillance camera on my way to work in New York City

#38
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly can't tell if this is real or not. If it is: what the fuck.

Oh, it's real alright. That's probably the worst one. There are some that are less ridiculous, but they're all quite 'nanny state'. http://www.glasgowprestwick.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/S... Trains are the best. Imagine an announcement. If you see something that doesn't look right, SEE IT, SAY IT, SORTED. If you see something that doesn't look right, SEE IT, SAY IT, SORTED. If you see something that doesn't look…

I'm sorry to hear that, sounds pretty insane.

Re: I documented every surveillance camera on my way to work in New York City

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post #31

Content aside, this article is really well formatted. Going photo by photo, camera by camera puts me in the shoes of the author, and frankly gives me the same feeling I had when I first read 1984 (especially when he mentioned the sky was fittingly grey).

I just country the number of cameras i saw while going to lunch from my office. It's an under 300 meter walk, and I saw 16 cameras, in a supposedly privacy friendly country like Germany.

Which city?

Re: I documented every surveillance camera on my way to work in New York City

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post #19

One thing that I always wondered is if people just ignore the cameras. Once I got called for questioning on a local retail store, since I was with enough free time and a good mood, so I just went with it. So the reason I was called was that the security guard noticed that I was looking at all security cameras which made me seem suspicious, my only answer was "well they're distracting". Anyway there was no other irreg…

Some years ago I saw a documentary from a CCTV control room in Rotterdam, Netherlands monitoring busy shopping streets. The operators deemed everyone walking aimlessly as suspicious, and would follow them from camera to camera. At one point a guy was reading from a piece of paper, and the camera zoomed in until the text was clearly readable. Creepy af. The mentality there was, if you feel uncomfortable you probably h…

I very often go out at night to walk or take some picture of monuments in Berlin. I get stopped every single time by security guards, police, &c. "It's a private property you can't be there" Ah right, the sidewalk is a private property now. The worst thing is that you can't says anything, you can't call the cops on the cops...

Try taking a picture of police officers/cars or of a security camera. It's 100% legal but they'll act like it's not.

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