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A Week in the Life of a McDonald’s Cashier

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Re: A Week in the Life of a McDonald’s Cashier

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Right, my point wasn’t that people won’t pay $20 for a burger and fries, just that they won’t pay $20 for a burger and fries at McDonald’s .

Then maybe a business that can't make enough money to pay livable wages should cease to exist? I thought this was the idea all along?

> "Then maybe a business that can't make enough money to pay livable wages should cease to exist?"

Sounds like a recipe for business closures en masse and ballooning unemployment, which I don't think is something anyone wants.

Re: A Week in the Life of a McDonald’s Cashier

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the story of a 29-year old working in fast food sounds pretty disturbing. it sounds like a lack of planning more than anything. McDonalds is meant for kids in high school living with their parents. It's pretty disturbing that a 29-year old would have failed to plan for over 15 years wasting her time and working in a job meant for kids half her age. I would say she should start getting some real skills to get a higher…

You sound elitist. Not everyone has the family support or smarts for better paying jobs. I admire the woman for for working so hard.

Re: A Week in the Life of a McDonald’s Cashier

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the story of a 29-year old working in fast food sounds pretty disturbing. it sounds like a lack of planning more than anything. McDonalds is meant for kids in high school living with their parents. It's pretty disturbing that a 29-year old would have failed to plan for over 15 years wasting her time and working in a job meant for kids half her age. I would say she should start getting some real skills to get a higher…

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Please don't do this here.

Re: A Week in the Life of a McDonald’s Cashier

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Even though it seems like she lives in an urban area (or urban enough to be squeezed by rising home prices), the public transit is so poor that she spends 3-5x more time getting to work without a car than with one. Sometimes she can't even get home. That's crazy, the car dependence of America means that you need to pay for insurance + a car to even function in society. That is the opposite of freedom

Makes me think there is a business opportunity in urban areas?

Re: A Week in the Life of a McDonald’s Cashier

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So should we force companies to pay a “livable income” for the teenager staying at home? The couple with two small kids and the mom staying at home to raise them? The single mom who has to raise three or four kids on her own? The single person in the story who needs expensive medical care to stay alive?

Yes. Because people who need jobs to live shouldn’t have to suffer for those people you mentioned. All those people you mentioned it’s a fucking optional thing - don’t optimize for the optional.

So it’s “optional” for the single mom who was married and whose husband left/died? Is it “optional” in any circumstance for the kids?

Re: A Week in the Life of a McDonald’s Cashier

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I worked a pizza (among others) job through high school and college. I've been overworked at many professional technical jobs in different roles before. I'm paid a great deal more now, and yet I was never more tired or worn out or found it hard to study than when I worked the ovens at the pizza place. I often work with people who have never worked such jobs. They're upset that they're 'overworked' and spend their tim…

I think this is the biggest problem America has as a country now. People dying in the streets due to lack of healthcare/homelessness, and being stuck delivering pizza with no real routes to get out other than to “learn to code”...

Re: A Week in the Life of a McDonald’s Cashier

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What standard of living do you consider "livable" and what percentage of the 7.7 Billion people on the planet actually live at that standard? The "living wage" thing is a marketing weasel phrase. It's intentionally non-specific and encourages the listener to fill in their own idea of what kind of lifestyle a "living wage" entails. I would encourage everyone to ignore "living wage" marketing weasel-speak and only list…

Try at the very minimum matching to inflation, and adjusting the current wage to what it would be if it were. Then all you have to decide is whether the minimum wage should’ve been a thing in the first place.

The “living wage” would be different for someone with no dependents and no health problems than someone who has health problems and/or kids.

Re: A Week in the Life of a McDonald’s Cashier

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A few hundred a day means a lot to the franchise owner. It really means a lot to the mom and pop pizzeria down the street or the owner of the convenience store.

And the plantation owner. Cheap labor is not a right.

I’ve asked this before, how much “labor” could the average money losing, VC backed, startup afford?

Re: A Week in the Life of a McDonald’s Cashier

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I was born and raised just above dirt-poor, by American standards; e.g., lived in a poor area (now a full-fledged ghetto), we reused milk to each have a bowl of cereal with the same milk, we wore all hand-me-downs, any toys we had were hand-me-downs from church friends, nobody in my extended family had ever graduated high school, we never left the state once, we ate at restaurants a few times ever, etc. Both of my parents’ parents were absolutely dirt-poor and entirely uneducated. My maternal grandma couldn’t even read.

I worked my fucking ass off as a teenager, starting at 13, making minimum wage for 2 years at various jobs; I slowly upgraded my job status to the point where I was earning almost 3 dollars an hour more than minimum-wage by the time I was 19, and I was proud of that at the time.

Needless to say, I didn’t go to college (nobody paid for that and I certainly didn’t have the money).

I became motivated by learning how much profit some of the customers I helped were making as entrepreneurs (always being nosy and asking questions, etc.), and I started a half-ass business at 22 years old. I made a little bit of money and learned some new skills burning the midnight oil till 3am for months, which translated into a sort of graphic design job, now making more money. I got acquainted with web design and web development just by reading stuff on the Internet and reading books, seriously burning the midnight oil. I worked my ass off nonstop and never stopped trying to learn more and more. Fast-forward 6 years and many hundreds of hours studying, and I was earning almost $200,000 a year as a software engineer.

Nobody gave me anything. Minimum-wage was much lower, inflation adjusted, when I started out. I started out at a huge deficit with a poor family that was uneducated and did not steer me in any particular direction. Yet, I made it.

The moral of my story is that all of the “adversity” that I experienced was exactly what made me successful. Earning minimum-wage is for people who are starting out for people who can’t make it past there. I certainly didn’t deserve more than minimum wage money earned it; but I’ll tell you what, I did deserve more when I got there, and I didn’t have to be thankful for it, because I earned it. Nobody deserves anything by default, not even clean water. Everybody has the freedom to make their own choices, including how to create a safe and clean society. It’s not the job of some government overlords to fix everything for us plebeians by passing laws. It’s our job. It’s our world, until we give it away to hucksters masquerading as our saviors.

Listening to people on here whine like groveling animals about how they deserve this and deserve that, because life is expensive, like that’s somebody else’s job to fix for them... imagine trying to describe your woes to an Irish immigrant, who just came home from a 12 hour day at the same factory where he lost his finger a few months back; and you’re typing your message out to this laborer on your $1400 phone.

Some people won’t make it; that’s OK. It sucks, but it’s how life has always been for every species since the beginning of life on Earth.

Re: A Week in the Life of a McDonald’s Cashier

#480

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> effectively making _less_ than she would have in, say, 2005 or 2010 I started working in 1998 at 16-years-old. I could make $9.50/hr washing dishes or more as a bus boy on a busy night. Shit's whack. Of course as a suburban kid I had reliable transportation. The constantly rotating cast of dishwashers virtually never had this access.

How? I made $6.25 bagging groceries in 2002

There was a recession in 2001
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