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Re: Space: The Integrated Team Environment

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Post by robomartin »

sWW26 wrote: post #8
robomartin wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to a heavy-handed solution to a traditionally simple problem. The easiest example of this would be some thing like Notepad++. When I fire it up it tells me there's an update and if I say "yes" to installing it I can go have a cup of coffee and it is done when I get back. Toolbox has always sounded interesting but then you have stuff like this: "Why can’t I update a tool via the Toolbox App? If you are planni…

That's weird because I get your ideal update flow in the apps of theirs I use (Rider, Webstorm & Datagrip) i.e. a notification that there is a new update with an update now button that downloads and installs the update. Maybe it's a platform specific thing, I'm on Windows.

Interesting, I haven't seen that in WebStorm, PhpStorm, DataGrip, CLion, IntelliJ or PyCharm. I'm on Windows 10. Hmmm. Need to look at latest updates and see if things changed. That would be wonderful. Thanks for the note.

I've been doing circuit design for a couple of months and haven't touched any of the tools. I'll let you know what I discover.

Re: Space: The Integrated Team Environment

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Post by mdaniel »

sWW26 wrote: post #8
robomartin wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to a heavy-handed solution to a traditionally simple problem. The easiest example of this would be some thing like Notepad++. When I fire it up it tells me there's an update and if I say "yes" to installing it I can go have a cup of coffee and it is done when I get back. Toolbox has always sounded interesting but then you have stuff like this: "Why can’t I update a tool via the Toolbox App? If you are planni…

That's weird because I get your ideal update flow in the apps of theirs I use (Rider, Webstorm & Datagrip) i.e. a notification that there is a new update with an update now button that downloads and installs the update. Maybe it's a platform specific thing, I'm on Windows.

AFAIK that's how the "individually downloaded" apps behave, but Toolbox apps -- for good or bad -- appear to be whole-hog downloads each time. I strongly suspect that's due to the roll-forward and roll-back behavior in Toolbox. Although unless my mental model is wrong, it should still be possible for Toolbox to have release-1 in a directory and _create_ a release-2 directory based on (release-1 + update patch), just into a new directory instead of in-place

Re: Space: The Integrated Team Environment

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Post by keithnz »

robomartin wrote: post #7
ickyforce wrote: post #6

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Isn't https://www.jetbrains.com/toolbox-app/ doing that?

It seems to a heavy-handed solution to a traditionally simple problem. The easiest example of this would be some thing like Notepad++. When I fire it up it tells me there's an update and if I say "yes" to installing it I can go have a cup of coffee and it is done when I get back. Toolbox has always sounded interesting but then you have stuff like this: "Why can’t I update a tool via the Toolbox App? If you are planni…

what tools are you using? all the tools I use (webstorm, rider, R#, datagrip, clion) seem to bug me all the time about new updates, not only for the software but plugins as well.

Re: Space: The Integrated Team Environment

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Post by sandGorgon »

This is Slack + GitHub + Trello .

I would totally use it. Missed opportunity for Atlassian - since they have all the pieces (before they sold hipchat).

Jetbrains make great software. The only thing that I'm doubtful about is that Jetbrains has never run infrastructure at scale. I hope they hired a great devops team.

Re: Space: The Integrated Team Environment

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Post by CraftThatBlock »

sandGorgon wrote: post #14

This is Slack + GitHub + Trello . I would totally use it. Missed opportunity for Atlassian - since they have all the pieces (before they sold hipchat). Jetbrains make great software. The only thing that I'm doubtful about is that Jetbrains has never run infrastructure at scale. I hope they hired a great devops team.

They have, they have other SaaS products such as YouTrack and TeamCity.

Re: Space: The Integrated Team Environment

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Post by sandGorgon »

CraftThatBlock wrote: post #15
sandGorgon wrote: post #14

This is Slack + GitHub + Trello . I would totally use it. Missed opportunity for Atlassian - since they have all the pieces (before they sold hipchat). Jetbrains make great software. The only thing that I'm doubtful about is that Jetbrains has never run infrastructure at scale. I hope they hired a great devops team.

They have, they have other SaaS products such as YouTrack and TeamCity.

I'm not sure how many people use YT and Teamcity hosted vs on-premise.

Re: Space: The Integrated Team Environment

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Post by konart »

sandGorgon wrote: post #14

This is Slack + GitHub + Trello . I would totally use it. Missed opportunity for Atlassian - since they have all the pieces (before they sold hipchat). Jetbrains make great software. The only thing that I'm doubtful about is that Jetbrains has never run infrastructure at scale. I hope they hired a great devops team.

They use AWS for their backend https://hh.ru/vacancy/33189435
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