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Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

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Post by JackWritesCode »

snickerbockers wrote: post #58
JackWritesCode wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's most certainly a plug for privacy-focused products. We're as surprised as you that this ended up on the front page.

>It's most certainly a plug for privacy-focused products. Their pitch is "we respect your privacy more than the other guy" instead of just "we respect your privacy". User privacy is the antithesis of what they do.

I'd say it's both, snickerbockers. Google Analytics wasn't built with privacy in mind and Google is in the advertising business primarily.

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

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Post by JackWritesCode »

DrOctagon wrote: post #53

Happy (recent) Fathom customer. I use it on a handful of small side projects. I hope there is space in the market for a product like this. I did a reasonable amount of research and the $14/month is worth it for the handful of side projects I use it on. Their marketing can be a little earnest, but for me the product strikes the right balance between the info provided, privacy, and cost.

Appreciate the honest review :)

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

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Post by thinkxl »

saadalem wrote: post #29

You should have a more killer product than google analytics to have people pay for it ! People don't care about privacy at the point they talk ;)

A "killer" product isn't for everybody. Not everyone needs all the options that Google Analytics offer, plus there are some people concerned about privacy, and products like Fathom and Simple Analytics are perfect for them.

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

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Post by thinkxl »

sdan wrote: post #54
Hoasi wrote: post #28

I have not used Google Analytics in years. There are so many extraordinary features that I ended up wasting too much time with it without any substantial gain. Now you'd have to pay me to use it. For small sites, it is overkill.

It definitely is. As someone who just made some simple HTML sites on Github Pages, I just want some simple analytics without having to pay much. That's why, I'm building https://sdan.io/pingpong , which should be free up to 100k visitors monthly and am expecting to launch in January. It's cheaper, faster (by a 3-4x margin), and simple. If you want to stay updated, fill out this form: https://forms.gle/BZA7thD878PbKnS…

> it is overkill.

> It definitely is.

It is not, you pay $14 and you get basic analytics and this https://usefathom.com/news/anonymization that's worth the money for me.

> It's cheaper, faster (by a 3-4x margin), and simple.

What about user privacy? are you anonymizing the users?

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

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Post by JackWritesCode »

notacoward wrote: post #63

The title is misleading. This isn't about Big Tech. It's about Google specifically . Why not name them?

It applies to big tech.

1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook%E2%80%93Cambridge_Ana... 2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_data_breaches etc.

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

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Post by ihsoj »

JackWritesCode wrote: post #17
ihsoj wrote: post #12

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Agree - not an option for everyone. Free version for personal websites or websites with visits/month would be great.

Lite - https://github.com/usefathom/fathom

Lite - "Scaling requires you to power down and then upgrade your server" - what?

Why don't give full version free for sites with low x visitors/month. One can easily upgrade if they see enough value. 2 cents.

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

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Post by joshmanders »

itake wrote: post #52
JackWritesCode wrote: post #40

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We have a Lite version too if $14 is too much: https://github.com/usefathom/fathom

$14 is too much.

Disclaimer: I’m a fathom user.

$14/mo is not too much for me knowing my services and websites aren’t another point of interest in googles data mining and selling scheme.

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

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Post by sdan »

thinkxl wrote: post #65
sdan wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It definitely is. As someone who just made some simple HTML sites on Github Pages, I just want some simple analytics without having to pay much. That's why, I'm building https://sdan.io/pingpong , which should be free up to 100k visitors monthly and am expecting to launch in January. It's cheaper, faster (by a 3-4x margin), and simple. If you want to stay updated, fill out this form: https://forms.gle/BZA7thD878PbKnS…

> it is overkill. > It definitely is. It is not, you pay $14 and you get basic analytics and this https://usefathom.com/news/anonymization that's worth the money for me. > It's cheaper, faster (by a 3-4x margin), and simple. What about user privacy? are you anonymizing the users?

As a student (and a developer) I see paying $14 a month a huge expense. To really promote the privacy and accessibility for all, I'm building this to make it free and will absorb the compute costs if I have to for the sake of value for customers.

Finally, yes, I'm planning to utilize a variety of shuffling and hashing techniques to anonymize users, data, and all other aspects. At the moment, I'm focusing on getting under 90ms on average globally (which I have achieved, just not implemented into the master branch yet)... which is over 4.5x faster than Fathom's average of 420ms globally. More coming soon! Fill out if interested: https://forms.gle/BZA7thD878PbKnSs8.

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

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Post by JackWritesCode »

ihsoj wrote: post #67
JackWritesCode wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lite - https://github.com/usefathom/fathom

Lite - "Scaling requires you to power down and then upgrade your server" - what? Why don't give full version free for sites with low x visitors/month. One can easily upgrade if they see enough value. 2 cents.

That line needs updating as it doesn't apply to people running it serverless. That was aimed at the DO users who need to power down to upgrade.

And we're not in a position to offer a free plan but may do in the future.

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