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Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

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post #13

This is interesting... but I have a personal website, I won't pay ~$150/year for this service (my whole box is about $200/year). Is there any free alternative to google analytics, including self-hosted approaches?

I'm building one that's both cheaper (mostly free but at most $2 a month) and faster than Fathom. I'm onboarding some customers but I'm planning to launch in January! http://sdan.io/pingpong If you want to stay updated, fill out this form: https://forms.gle/BZA7thD878PbKnSs8 and I'll keep in touch soon.

Your CSS might be missing some margins, just FYI.

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

#42
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm building one that's both cheaper (mostly free but at most $2 a month) and faster than Fathom. I'm onboarding some customers but I'm planning to launch in January! http://sdan.io/pingpong If you want to stay updated, fill out this form: https://forms.gle/BZA7thD878PbKnSs8 and I'll keep in touch soon.

Your CSS might be missing some margins, just FYI.

It definitely is. I hacked it together a couple nights ago and left the mess there. Working on the backend to make it faster and reliable and I'll fix up the frontend.

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

#43

This is interesting... but I have a personal website, I won't pay ~$150/year for this service (my whole box is about $200/year). Is there any free alternative to google analytics, including self-hosted approaches?

I also have a personal website and I just... don't put any analytics on it. Genuinely curious: what do you get out of having analytics on a personal site?

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

#44

Most people I know with small websites will not pay $15/month for analytics. The privacy part of it is also not really the concern of small website owners. This is not to dismiss Fathom entirely. But there are free alternative (with server setup cost) that keeps your data private: Matomo (formerly Piwik). I've run it in parallel with Google Analytics and it was the closest replacement I could find. But again, small w…

clicky (clicky.com) is another good, privacy-focused analytics option.

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

#45

Most people I know with small websites will not pay $15/month for analytics. The privacy part of it is also not really the concern of small website owners. This is not to dismiss Fathom entirely. But there are free alternative (with server setup cost) that keeps your data private: Matomo (formerly Piwik). I've run it in parallel with Google Analytics and it was the closest replacement I could find. But again, small w…

I use matomo and it's worked great so far. You can buy plugins to record sessions etc It has privacy respecting settings allowing you to mask out sensitive data. You can additionally use it for gdpr cookie compliance and much more. Best of all, you control the servers and own all the data

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

#47

So... "big tech" is bad because spying on users is scummy behavior, but please do pay us to help you spy on your users. Also, we'll provide you with tools to spy on your users, but it's software as a service and everything important happens on our servers, where we get to keep all the logs we show you, of the events that we capture from your website. So, yes, we'll be intercepting that data, and we'll know things the…

It is not about spying on users, but see trends and how users behave on your site.

In my case, I want to see what posts have more visits. I don't intend to monetize my blog, but I do have a lot of curiosity about what people like to read on it.

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

#48

If I don't use Google Analytics on my website, but 70% of my visitors visit using Chrome, Google knows what's going on regardless.

Scary thoughts. More people are moving to Brave, which is great.

I've been using Firefox and DuckDuckGo for almost four years now!

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

#49
post #43

This is interesting... but I have a personal website, I won't pay ~$150/year for this service (my whole box is about $200/year). Is there any free alternative to google analytics, including self-hosted approaches?

I also have a personal website and I just... don't put any analytics on it. Genuinely curious: what do you get out of having analytics on a personal site?

Analytics is useful to understand what content you write people are consuming. If you write a bunch of blog posts that get no traffic but a few articles that get a lot of traffic, you can begin to understand what content others are finding helpful.

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

#50
post #19

Is there any analytics kind of product that just pulls information from web server access logs? There are lots of cases I can think of where I wouldn't be all that interested in gathering Google Analytics level data and would be fine with being able to do a bit of analysis about unique users and usage patterns. (beyond doing it myself with a log aggregator and creating my own dashboards)

GoAccess ( https://goaccess.io/ ) looks interesting, though I haven't had the chance to play with it yet.

Related "Show HN: I replaced Google Analytics with simple log-based analytics"[1]

- [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19883876

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