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Why Taxpayers Pay McKinsey $3M a Year for a Recent College Graduate Contractor

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Re: Why Taxpayers Pay McKinsey $3M a Year for a Recent College Graduate Contractor

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I was a technical project management consultant for a long time. The value that most orgs get from a consultant isn't really in the advice the consultant gives them, it's the political cover to make changes they knew they should make all along, but didn't have the social capital or the focus to make those changes until they had a person in a chair across from them.

That's just one type of consulting. Perhaps a very important type but governments tend to hire them for far more mundane reasons as well: government workers at some places rarely (never) get fired so it's more efficient to hire a consultant for a while instead of being stuck with a lifer even if the consultant is four times the cost.

Re: Why Taxpayers Pay McKinsey $3M a Year for a Recent College Graduate Contractor

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It seems like people do really well for themselves after they leave McKinsey, do you think this is mostly a function of the cache having McKinsey on your resume brings? What skills are really developed as a management consultant?

McKinsey data scientist (basically a consultant who codes). Can answer this after following some colleagues who have left and seen many technical teams at clients for my general role. Most data scientists... don't know what to do. And most clients... don't know what to do with them. So they do little data science projects and build dashboards that few people use. Coming out of McKinsey you can quite confidently say y…

I feel like I do data investigations pretty often in my role as a PM at a tech company, how does this differ as a consultant?

Re: Why Taxpayers Pay McKinsey $3M a Year for a Recent College Graduate Contractor

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Meta, but this comment reads exactly like it was written by a consultant.

They literally wrote "As a consultant..."

That's one of the biggest red flags that something may have been written by a consultant. ;D

Re: Why Taxpayers Pay McKinsey $3M a Year for a Recent College Graduate Contractor

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Wouldn't one enjoy some benefits from being proven right?

Right up until you realize the 23 year old snot who made the recommendation billed ~$3 million against your ~$100k salary.

McK will bill $3 million, the 23 year old may get at best same as your $100k salary. Which makes everyone feel sour, esp the youngster for getting 3% of what their boss charged the client...!

Re: Why Taxpayers Pay McKinsey $3M a Year for a Recent College Graduate Contractor

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This is reading more and more like you're begging the question. One of the sibling replies that predates this comment by a quarter of an hour already addresses your specific missing connecting dot here. Not to mention the article itself, which is also well cited. It's good. I suggest you read it. Interrogating my two sentence oversimplification of the forest is not a useful way to learn about this.

I get the impression some of the commenters don't really have experience with government contracts on either the public or private side. The IG report points out real problems, but I think people are extrapolating too far because they don't truly understand how contracts are awarded via the GSA schedule. I think people are confusing being awarded a listing on a GSA schedule with an actual order. Being on the GSA sche…

This is actually quite a good question, and I don't understand why you're being given such grief for it. But I also might have an answer. TL;DR: the government isn't paying McKinsey for services rendered. It's paying for bureaucratic capital, which is a Veblen good.

There is a confluence of two dynamics going on here. The first is that once a contractor is listed on the GSA schedule, you don't have to justify their price. The process of getting listed on the GSA Schedule is supposed to mean that the government has already vetted the goods being offered and the price they're being offered for. No further competition is needed. You can simply place an order for the goods or service listed and like magic it sails through the government procurement process.

So the next question is, if contractor A and contractor B are both listed on the GSA Schedule as providing a given service, and contractor A is twice as expensive as contractor B, why would any rational individual choose contractor A? And the answer is, in this case, you aren't paying for the advice. You're paying for the social capital needed to make the advice stick. If all you wanted was the advice, you could certainly go to contractor B and pay them twice minimum wage to get a 23-year year old college graduate to give you advice. But that advice would not carry the weight you need to get upper management to take it as gospel, because you clearly didn't pay enough money for that. Nobody cares if you pay $50,000 to get consultant advice and then ignore what they told you.

So what you do instead is pick the name with the most cachet out of the entire list, given that you don't have to justify the price on a cost-benefit curve any more since it's already been GSA approved, knowing full well that they'll give you identical advice but now with a million-dollar price tag attached... and that fact will carry enough weight to get the changes they recommend all the way up to your agency director, who'll either sign off or have to take an incredible amount of public heat explaining why he/she didn't take the advice his/her own agency spent millions of dollars to get.

Basically, a straightforward application of the Washington Post rule.

Re: Why Taxpayers Pay McKinsey $3M a Year for a Recent College Graduate Contractor

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As a consultant I like to flip this situation around, and let the internal staff who are already advocating for the direction I feel is best to be my biggest cheerleaders. Engage them early, let them know you're there to help them personally, and they'll help you do a better job when presenting your shared ideas to the brass.

But... it’s not your shared idea. It’s their idea, and the company didn’t have a process in place to let them present it except through your consulting engagement. Sure, if it’s a good outcome for the employee to work with you to get things implemented fine, but it still stings a bit that someone from the outside was trusted more than an invested employee before any traction occurred. See also: “let’s hire a consulti…

Large firms do have the ability to offer ideas from a different perspective. Their value isn’t 0 for ability to give new ideas.

Re: Why Taxpayers Pay McKinsey $3M a Year for a Recent College Graduate Contractor

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Pete Buttigieg worked at McKinsey after his college days...which was only 10-15 years ago. I wonder if/how he was exposed to unethical practices and grafting like this...

If he was I expect he understand the issue and as President would work with Congress to reform the practice.

Why would you expect that? He’s been given opportunity to acknowledge the problems with McKinsey and he has avoided the issue.

Re: Why Taxpayers Pay McKinsey $3M a Year for a Recent College Graduate Contractor

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Thats because there is 0 additional marginal cost for their salaried consultants' time, too. Like many in the workforce, they are a paid a salary, and it's the same amount whether working 40 hours or 80 hours.

Isn't unpaid overtime illegal?

Your job isn’t to do X hours of work your job is to meet a goal, objective or target. You don’t get to stop when the clock hits a certain hour in this industry.
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