I can't imagine to pay $14/m for my personal website
Make your website a black hole to big tech
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Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech
#32I don't get this. Small personal website are not going to pay money. Business websites in general will not leave GA and not because of the analytical aspect but because of the integrations. Businesses use Google Ads, GA ties in closely with Ads. Then you connect to Data Studio for your dashboards. And deploy through GTM. It's a whole eco system that's hard to replace by a single piece of software. As much as I'd love…
Not all businesses use ads or data studio though. Those folks are looking for quick and easy stats they can use to run their business, like what content is popular, what referrals are driving traffic. And, if they're a business, they are making money, and at least some can afford to pay for expenses like website analytics. Like all software, it's not for everyone in every situation, but it is for certain folks in certain situations.
Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech
#33This is just an advertisement for the company. It doesn't really say anything substantive. "Google bad, we better!"
Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech
#34This is just an advertisement for the company. It doesn't really say anything substantive. "Google bad, we better!"
It's most certainly a plug for privacy-focused products. We're as surprised as you that this ended up on the front page.
Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech
#35Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm building one that's both cheaper (mostly free but at most $2 a month) and faster than Fathom. I'm onboarding some customers but I'm planning to launch in January! http://sdan.io/pingpong If you want to stay updated, fill out this form: https://forms.gle/BZA7thD878PbKnSs8 and I'll keep in touch soon.
Good luck. Building a sustainable business at $2 / month will be hard but we wish you the best :)
Given that I'm targeting the developer community, I understand that paying for stuff like this is a huge turn off (at least that's one of the main reasons I'm building this). In the long term I think I'll try making this more sustainable by selling to businesses (which in my mind and from what I heard makes more sense).
Anyways, thanks!
Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech
#37So... "big tech" is bad because spying on users is scummy behavior, but please do pay us to help you spy on your users. Also, we'll provide you with tools to spy on your users, but it's software as a service and everything important happens on our servers, where we get to keep all the logs we show you, of the events that we capture from your website. So, yes, we'll be intercepting that data, and we'll know things the…
Oh crikey. Appreciate the criticism and totally appreciate if you don't trust us. You should not use Fathom and should consider going with our Lite version which you can self-host. We'll be making more changes to that version in the new year. With regards to data collection, check out: https://usefathom.com/news/anonymization
If you're feeling this way already, we'll likely never earn your trust, and that's fine. We appreciate you voicing your concerns, as you obviously care about privacy.
Have a great rest of day.
Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech
#38Most people I know with small websites will not pay $15/month for analytics. The privacy part of it is also not really the concern of small website owners.
This is not to dismiss Fathom entirely. But there are free alternative (with server setup cost) that keeps your data private: Matomo (formerly Piwik).
I've run it in parallel with Google Analytics and it was the closest replacement I could find. But again, small website owners don't pay for analytics. When anything I write generates even modest traffic, Matomo crashed. Adding a more robust server would help, and they have documentation for optimization. But hey it's just my personal blog.
If you are looking to add robust analytics, GA is the no-brainer. If you are willing to pay and respect privacy, use Matomo and have your devops optimize it for you.
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#39Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech
#40Most people I know with small websites will not pay $15/month for analytics. The privacy part of it is also not really the concern of small website owners. This is not to dismiss Fathom entirely. But there are free alternative (with server setup cost) that keeps your data private: Matomo (formerly Piwik). I've run it in parallel with Google Analytics and it was the closest replacement I could find. But again, small w…
We have a Lite version too if $14 is too much: https://github.com/usefathom/fathom