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Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

#22

This is interesting... but I have a personal website, I won't pay ~$150/year for this service (my whole box is about $200/year). Is there any free alternative to google analytics, including self-hosted approaches?

I've installed fathom and self-hosted it. Seems to work pretty well.

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

#23
I don't get this. Small personal website are not going to pay money. Business websites in general will not leave GA and not because of the analytical aspect but because of the integrations. Businesses use Google Ads, GA ties in closely with Ads. Then you connect to Data Studio for your dashboards. And deploy through GTM. It's a whole eco system that's hard to replace by a single piece of software. As much as I'd love to stick it to Google as a person responsible for a business site I can't afford it.

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

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post #19

Is there any analytics kind of product that just pulls information from web server access logs? There are lots of cases I can think of where I wouldn't be all that interested in gathering Google Analytics level data and would be fine with being able to do a bit of analysis about unique users and usage patterns. (beyond doing it myself with a log aggregator and creating my own dashboards)

GoAccess ( https://goaccess.io/ ) looks interesting, though I haven't had the chance to play with it yet.

GoAccess doesn't seem to have conversion funnel tracking. Or is available in some sub-feature or plugin?

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

#25

If I don't use Google Analytics on my website, but 70% of my visitors visit using Chrome, Google knows what's going on regardless.

Scary thoughts. More people are moving to Brave, which is great.

It's funny, because Brendan Eich catches a lot of flack for having donated money to oppose gay marriage, but the name "Brave" is one that can only attract a user population comprised solely of total homosexuals.

Like, as in being "Brave" enough to come out of the closet and live a life as an openly gay male, like Kevin Spacey.

Based on this, you can expect, and it is my prediction, that Brave will only ever appeal to roughly one tenth the population, with another tenth curious and experimenting, but never fully adopting a "Brave" lifestyle.

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

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post #10

This is interesting... but I have a personal website, I won't pay ~$150/year for this service (my whole box is about $200/year). Is there any free alternative to google analytics, including self-hosted approaches?

Fathom has a self hosted open source version which I found to be fine. I checked recently and it looks like commits have slowed down so I'm not sure if it's maintained.

Here: https://fathom.transistor.fm/episodes/the-open-source-dilemm...

:)

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

#27

Is there any analytics kind of product that just pulls information from web server access logs? There are lots of cases I can think of where I wouldn't be all that interested in gathering Google Analytics level data and would be fine with being able to do a bit of analysis about unique users and usage patterns. (beyond doing it myself with a log aggregator and creating my own dashboards)

You could LogStash your logs into ElasticSearch and then view them with Kibana. The ole ELK stack.

Re: Make your website a black hole to big tech

#28
I have not used Google Analytics in years. There are so many extraordinary features that I ended up wasting too much time with it without any substantial gain. Now you'd have to pay me to use it. For small sites, it is overkill.
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