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Re: Space: The Integrated Team Environment

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This looks really interesting! I'm wondering how they integrate with existing tools though, because I can imagine companies are not going to shift all of their existing tooling to Space in one go.

They have a EAP program till end of 2020, probably to gain enough attention. Maybe even migration plans from existing tools.

Re: Space: The Integrated Team Environment

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Its going to be interesting to see how this works out, it has a lot of overlap with existing tools they have.

Some things that seem kind of odd to me is they have support for "blogs", but I've never really seen a use for that. Integrated Wiki / Question answer system ( bit like stackoverflow for team) would seem a better feature

Re: Space: The Integrated Team Environment

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As a JetBrains user and subscriber of many years there is one feature I eagerly await: Automated software updates for all installed tools without having to uninstall existing software. In this day and age I see no justification for making users navigate to the website, manually download updates for all installed tools and then manually install them one by one.

Re: Space: The Integrated Team Environment

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As a JetBrains user and subscriber of many years there is one feature I eagerly await: Automated software updates for all installed tools without having to uninstall existing software. In this day and age I see no justification for making users navigate to the website, manually download updates for all installed tools and then manually install them one by one.

Isn't https://www.jetbrains.com/toolbox-app/ doing that?

Re: Space: The Integrated Team Environment

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As a JetBrains user and subscriber of many years there is one feature I eagerly await: Automated software updates for all installed tools without having to uninstall existing software. In this day and age I see no justification for making users navigate to the website, manually download updates for all installed tools and then manually install them one by one.

Isn't https://www.jetbrains.com/toolbox-app/ doing that?

It seems to a heavy-handed solution to a traditionally simple problem. The easiest example of this would be some thing like Notepad++. When I fire it up it tells me there's an update and if I say "yes" to installing it I can go have a cup of coffee and it is done when I get back.

Toolbox has always sounded interesting but then you have stuff like this:

"Why can’t I update a tool via the Toolbox App? If you are planning to use the Toolbox App, we recommend uninstalling all previously installed JetBrains tools and re-installing them again through the Toolbox App. Your settings will not be affected."

and

"Is there a way to reduce the Toolbox App’s disk space usage? The app keeps a previously installed version of each tool to enable instant rollback. You can delete them to save space: please use Keep only the latest version setting in the app’s settings. Note that you’ll lose the ability to instantly roll back to a previous version, though."

There's more in the FAQ.

I might try it, but it sure feels like using a sledge-hammer to solve a problem that could have been done with a single "Install Update" button for each IDE.

In other words, offer the simple "Notepad++ style" option and if someone wants the entire aircraft carrier solution they can use Toolbox.

In general terms, I go for less complexity and less stuff to setup whenever possible. I love the JetBrains tools and have been a happy user and subscriber almost since they came out, they just lack a nice, simple and friction-free updater, that's all.

Re: Space: The Integrated Team Environment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't https://www.jetbrains.com/toolbox-app/ doing that?

It seems to a heavy-handed solution to a traditionally simple problem. The easiest example of this would be some thing like Notepad++. When I fire it up it tells me there's an update and if I say "yes" to installing it I can go have a cup of coffee and it is done when I get back. Toolbox has always sounded interesting but then you have stuff like this: "Why can’t I update a tool via the Toolbox App? If you are planni…

That's weird because I get your ideal update flow in the apps of theirs I use (Rider, Webstorm & Datagrip) i.e. a notification that there is a new update with an update now button that downloads and installs the update. Maybe it's a platform specific thing, I'm on Windows.

Re: Space: The Integrated Team Environment

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As a JetBrains user and subscriber of many years there is one feature I eagerly await: Automated software updates for all installed tools without having to uninstall existing software. In this day and age I see no justification for making users navigate to the website, manually download updates for all installed tools and then manually install them one by one.

There is JetBrains toolbox for that, for server products there are some tools as well

Re: Space: The Integrated Team Environment

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As a JetBrains user and subscriber of many years there is one feature I eagerly await: Automated software updates for all installed tools without having to uninstall existing software. In this day and age I see no justification for making users navigate to the website, manually download updates for all installed tools and then manually install them one by one.

That's been out for years now: Jetbrains Toolbox.
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