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It’s crunch time for Getty Images, and for photographers

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Re: It’s crunch time for Getty Images, and for photographers

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Registered on Shutterstock 11 months ago, added 9 photos, sold 3 for a grand total of $0.75. Selling stock photos made sense for photographers 10-20 years ago, not worth it anymore unless you're at the very top. For the reference: https://www.shutterstock.com/g/MateoSan

Yeah you have to be lucky and get the assignment to do the photography for the desktop backgrounds for Microsoft OSes and such.

But with people uploading their images free for others to use, many aren’t bothering with packaging images anymore.

Re: It’s crunch time for Getty Images, and for photographers

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Surprised there was no mention of the upcoming threat of AI stock photos, and how easy it will be to generate massive amounts of these fast and cheap. Ne real people, who won't have to sign contracts or be paid.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/20/20875362/100000-fake-ai-p...

Re: It’s crunch time for Getty Images, and for photographers

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Registered on Shutterstock 11 months ago, added 9 photos, sold 3 for a grand total of $0.75. Selling stock photos made sense for photographers 10-20 years ago, not worth it anymore unless you're at the very top. For the reference: https://www.shutterstock.com/g/MateoSan

Nice photos but they are very "run of the mill". I can probably find thousands of "snowy mountains" pics, many of them with a free license.

Re: It’s crunch time for Getty Images, and for photographers

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There is a startup yet to be founded to sell inexpensive, high-quality original photos for exclusive use. Unique photos, i.e. photos not considered "duplicate content", are critical if you want to rank organically on Google [0] Getty will eventually be disrupted. [0] https://www.rebootonline.com/blog/long-term-duplicate-image-...

There are a ton of two-sided marketplaces out there that try to do this. It's a messy challenge involving rights management (no good photographer will agree to the contracts these companies offer), production workflows (all companies do it differently) and assignment complexities (by 'high-quality' you mean 'high-quality and custom to the project' because a nice but generic picture is mostly useless).

But you're right in that free photos like the ones from Unsplash are super expensive in the long run because of the search ranking penalty (you get grouped with all the spammers who are using those same free photos).

Re: It’s crunch time for Getty Images, and for photographers

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I appreciate the work of photographers, but plunking down $500 for a high-res photo and knowing they're going to resell that same photo to others god knows how many more times has always rubbed me the wrong way. I get there's hardware/time involved in setting up a single photo, but hell, not that much.

> I appreciate the work of photographers, but plunking down $500 for a high-res photo and knowing they're going to resell that same photo to others god knows how many more times has always rubbed me the wrong way. Honestly, that doesn't bother me that much. What's truly absurd is wedding photography. Photographers get paid $1000+ and keep the copyright. Almost every other work-for-hire intellectual job involves an IP…

I agree somewhat with you, but might be able to put a bit more perspective on this.

Photographers use their work product as advertising, so attach their name to their work. They also often do any retouching themselves. This, along with copyright preventing modification of the images, allows those images to accurately reflect the abilities of the photographer.

It's a lot like software licensing in that way. As a company, you don't necessarily want someone tweaking your software you've sold to the and either expecting support, or even just possibly leaving a bad association with your software for the people that use it that don't realize that the reason it may be unstable is because someone has made unstable changes.

That doesn't make it good, but it does explain their thinking somewhat. Photographers are like software consultants, but because of the different time they came to prominence, they've managed to make it the norm that they retain rights to their work product. This is changing though. It's not too hard to find photographers that are willing to just dump the images to DVD pre-retouching and hand them over for you to do with as you wish. It won't be cheap, because they are losing out on being able to upsell you albums and video collages, etc, and their cost reflects not just the time they spent there, but their experience in knowing where to be and what to do to get the best pictures (in the same way that someone that pays my consulting rate is paying for my decades of experience).

Re: It’s crunch time for Getty Images, and for photographers

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The article says that Getty is still deriving most of their revenue from generic stock photos? That was quite surprising to me, since Wikimedia Commons among other sites provides plenty of such images under "free content" licenses (including images in the public domain). Perhaps the typical downstream reuser is unwilling to resort to these for some reason?

Anything free is going to ding your search ranking - just reverse image-search any image from Unsplash and you'll find thousands of content-farm clickbait adware using the same image. If your revenue is dependent on search ranking, that can get expensive really fast.

Re: It’s crunch time for Getty Images, and for photographers

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post #18

The article says that Getty is still deriving most of their revenue from generic stock photos? That was quite surprising to me, since Wikimedia Commons among other sites provides plenty of such images under "free content" licenses (including images in the public domain). Perhaps the typical downstream reuser is unwilling to resort to these for some reason?

Stock imagery is an art in its own right. Every newbie photographer thinks they can do stock images, but they can't. Knowing what people want is key, along with the ability to perfectly execute it. For example "woman in blue dress sitting under fall tree looking at moon" might convey some of of commercial message that is used to sell everything from ebook readers to insurance and nets the photographer a fortune in li…

> Why this Hanukkah photo is better than others, I don't know, but Shutterstock is featuring it right now so I guess it sells well and the colors and tones capture a popular trend:

It perfectly captures an advertisement aesthetic.

When I visited your link, I spent several seconds thinking the page hadn't loaded properly. I could see the caption, but not the image.

Then I realized that the image was in fact there, but my eyes were skipping over it in the exact same way I ignore banner ads.

Re: It’s crunch time for Getty Images, and for photographers

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> Getty has been criticized for selling the rights to photos that are freely available in the public domain. Searching for images on the web can sometimes mitigate this issue. Search by Image (maintainer here) can help you to quickly find alternative sources for images. It also supports several stock photo sites, so price comparison becomes easier. Visit the extension's options to enable the search engines you need.…

Just bear in mind that your ability to find an alternate source for an image does not mean that the image is in the public domain or that that the alternate source has the right to license the image to you. I'm not saying this is a bad strategy (especially if, due to its age or some other factor, it's obvious that an image is in the public domain), but be sure to do your due diligence.

Re: It’s crunch time for Getty Images, and for photographers

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post #22

Surprised there was no mention of the upcoming threat of AI stock photos, and how easy it will be to generate massive amounts of these fast and cheap. Ne real people, who won't have to sign contracts or be paid. https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/20/20875362/100000-fake-ai-p...

The (human) models and photographers will be in real trouble when generative models are able to make an ad on the fly with a fake person who looks like your neighbor with the best landscaping using the advertised lawnmower.
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