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The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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Re: The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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Yes, sorry

You can edit your comment to fix it

Not after 5 hours you can't. The cut off is 60 minutes.

I've been on this site since 2007, I've been around the block a few times ;)

Re: The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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Your mistake is showing a channel list. Hide unread channels; it's the only way to use Slack IMO.

If you're in so many channels that this is a problem then you have too many channels.

Do you feel the same way about email threads? If you're on too many email threads, there are too many emails in your company, right? I guess this is scale invariant with enterprise size too, right?

Re: The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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It doesn't work fine on Firefox android.

Firefox on Android ( / Preview) is generally terrible with input handling anyway. I still haven't figured out a way to paste into a textbox without removing existing text — long press is required to show the menu, but also selects the last word, and unselecting removes the menu.

>long press is required to show the menu

It's not. Tap on the caret and the menu will show up without selecting anything.

Re: The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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In case anyone's interested, here's the Chromium bug(s) that's one of the main reasons the WYSIWYG editor has such issues in Chrome(/Electron): - https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=102937... - https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=608393 - https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=608162 The gist of it is that they "canonicalize" the DOM selection when you have two adjac…

Wow, Firefox handles it just fine, Chrome just flat out breaks, that's a interesting bug!

Re: The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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I've been loving their responsiveness lately /s. I `ctrl-k` jump to another convo and start typing and the lag between `ctrl-k` closing and switching to the new convo is enough that I end up typing a few characters into the prior conversation - then I need to jump back to clear out the draft. Their channel listing is generally crap though, I gave up on trying to navigate it and just use `ctrl-k` jumping for everythin…

It's hilarious to think that there's almost nothing the Slack client is doing that a fat desktop app couldn't trivially do with nearly zero latency in 1999 in 1/20th the amount of RAM.

If someone built an emacs plu-(pardon me a moment, * googles furiously * , * laughs * )

Okay, someone built an emacs plugin for slack[1], it doesn't look like a very usable version of slack, but I'm pretty sure it'd be quite possible to fix this up a bit, prettify the UI, and end up with a much more performant version.

1. https://github.com/yuya373/emacs-slack

Re: The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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If you're in so many channels that this is a problem then you have too many channels.

Do you feel the same way about email threads? If you're on too many email threads, there are too many emails in your company, right? I guess this is scale invariant with enterprise size too, right?

Slack is not email and should not be used the same way you'd use email.

Re: The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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Do you feel the same way about email threads? If you're on too many email threads, there are too many emails in your company, right? I guess this is scale invariant with enterprise size too, right?

Slack is not email and should not be used the same way you'd use email.

Sure, but Slack channels are somewhere between email subscription lists and recurring email threads, in the space of corporate communication.

Channels may exist for each corporate customer, of which there may be a hundred or more, where CS reps subscribe to subsets that they're focused on, country managers subscribe to those that are local, product managers subscribe broadly by vertical but only scan to get a feel, sales may subscribe by function or region, etc. This is an easy way to get a large number of useful channels that simultaneously cuts down on noise.

BTW, you're surprisingly dictatorial in what you say. Emergent behaviour is far more interesting to me, because - along with conscious reflection - it evolves uses that can't easily be foreseen. Where did you get your rules handed down from on high, how were they justified, and what right do you have to think they are correct?

Re: The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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How do you know it was social media? I contacted Slack's customer support and asked for a toggle. It could have been my request. The customer support chat was fast, friendly, and professional. I couldn't ask for more.

The original people who contacted customer support got this message: > "I apologize for the disruption to your existing workflows. Our aim is to build an editor that works for all Slack users to better format their messages and clearly communicate in channels, regardless of their technical expertise. While we are taking all feedback on board, disabling the new formatting tool isn't an option that we will be offering.…

Of course OP was being rethorical, but I disagree that public outcry was necessarily the most likely cause. It could have had less influence than the massive amount of private paying customers feedback they undoubtedly received.

Re: The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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I'm sorry, but what users ? AFAIK Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter doesn't have a WYSIWYG editor. Are there some hidden users that send font size 30 all capitals red colored text in Times New Roman to each other ?

Office productivity tools do typically have WYSIWYG editors: Word, Outlook, Gmail, ...

Thank you, it didn't occur to me that some users are actually using slack to replace e-mail communication.

Re: The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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Slack is not email and should not be used the same way you'd use email.

Sure, but Slack channels are somewhere between email subscription lists and recurring email threads, in the space of corporate communication. Channels may exist for each corporate customer, of which there may be a hundred or more, where CS reps subscribe to subsets that they're focused on, country managers subscribe to those that are local, product managers subscribe broadly by vertical but only scan to get a feel, s…

> BTW, you're surprisingly dictatorial in what you say. Emergent behaviour is far more interesting to me

Sorry, you're right. Nothing is set in stone, all rules have their exceptions, etc.

My point was that having too many channels can lead to a constant sense of urgency, FOMO, and increased anxiety. If you have a carefully defined way of using them, without a sense of urgency, and without a need to see everything, it may work.

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