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WooMe: TechCrunch40 Finalist, $20 Million In Funding – And One Huge Scam

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Re: WooMe: TechCrunch40 Finalist, $20 Million In Funding – And One Huge Scam

#31

for the record, robin wauters didn't approach us to verify anything in the story and the accusations are untrue and misleading. we focus very hard on getting people to talk to each other and interact and we have a number of features on the site, driven by users, that make that happen. Ironically, the user featured in the pic is one of the longest standing and most active on WooMe.

I did contact WooMe. The accusations are not misleading, see also the update to my post.

Also, the user featured in the top picture personally contacted me, and while I never claimed her profile was fake (but mine obviously was), it turns out she's pretending to be someone else on there (confirmed).

It's easy to say I fabricated the story, much harder to prove, isn't it?

I wouldn't be calling you out if I didn't think you really need to take a good look of how what kind of shady business you're running.

Re: WooMe: TechCrunch40 Finalist, $20 Million In Funding – And One Huge Scam

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I don't know what he received so I can't say." Speak straight. Do you or do you not send automated messages or messages from fake accounts in an effort to entice visitors to sign up?

we do not.

Do you purposefully allow spammers (affiliates maybe?) to generate large numbers of fake messages that result in conversions from your fake free, to paid accounts?

Yes you do.

I have less than zero respect for you, and for everything you do.

Re: WooMe: TechCrunch40 Finalist, $20 Million In Funding – And One Huge Scam

#33
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So your saying that every message received came from a real user of the website?

I don't know what he received so I can't say. But our tools promote real users interacting with real users. Maybe Robin could talk to us if he has a problem. Horses for courses not withstanding.

Stop pretending I'm not engaging in a conversation.

Re: WooMe: TechCrunch40 Finalist, $20 Million In Funding – And One Huge Scam

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You, sir, sound like a snake oil salesman of the worst kind. Either that or you have no clue how your site operates. edit but apparently 'Jen' does. Screencast here -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOtBmqqKVcc (Thanks to my Appsumo purchase of Screenflow which saved me 50%!)

right. I'm the CTO. I'm not sure what I can do to combat the perception that I sell snake oil. I don't sell snake oil. I help people meet each other. If you really WANT snake oil I guess I could find some and get it to you.

> If you really WANT snake oil I guess I could find some and get it to you.

You certainly have enough of it in stock.

Let's get real: you're either generating, or allowing spams because they result in upsells. You have no financial incentive to stop the problem, and you lack the ethics to do it because it's right.

Not to mention that your investors would wonder why the cash spigot dried up, once you converted your site from an unethical cesspool of deception to a legitimate, value-adding business.

You're everything that's wrong with business in a neat little bun. Here's to hoping that someday you stop scamming people, and start creating value.

Re: WooMe: TechCrunch40 Finalist, $20 Million In Funding – And One Huge Scam

#36
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So your saying that every message received came from a real user of the website?

I don't know what he received so I can't say. But our tools promote real users interacting with real users. Maybe Robin could talk to us if he has a problem. Horses for courses not withstanding.

I got about 5 messages the first 2-3 minutes after signing up. A short while later, I had roughly 20 random women contacting me. Good thing I have screenshots, because they stopped coming as soon as WooMe noticed my post.

I can only see what these supposedly real women are trying to tell or ask me until I pay up. That's all fine and dandy, but there's no point in pretending that real users were just all jumping on the opportunity to meet a horse in such a short time period.

Re: WooMe: TechCrunch40 Finalist, $20 Million In Funding – And One Huge Scam

#38
How is this an article so thoroughly under-researched? Why not go a little bit further and investigate if actual people are posting?

Hi $name, thank you for messaging me. I'm new to this site, so can you please tell me the process on how you send me that message, where did you have to click, etc? I am still trying to figure this out, so if you could tell me what buttons you had to press to send the message to me, I'd appreciate it, it would help me get started. Thank you ahead of time, $name. P.S. Have you read any good books lately?

And then, to be even more sure, create a couple more accounts through proxies and see what kind of messages they get. Do deactivate them after.

See, while it does look like some sort of bait-and-switch, at least try to verify it. Maybe at the very least they've got a very persuasive feature where new members do get popped up, and there's a user initiated "Poke" like feature (that appears as a message on your end), so that would put them somewhere in grey-hat tactics out of the black-hat area.

Re: WooMe: TechCrunch40 Finalist, $20 Million In Funding – And One Huge Scam

#39
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Hey don't knock the horse face. I did fine at Burning Man wearing a Horse Head mask. Maybe there are a lot of playa princesses on WooMe.

Wow. It's 2011 and I still haven't gone to Burning Man. Been meaning to go since 1995.

looks at blizzard outside

Re: WooMe: TechCrunch40 Finalist, $20 Million In Funding – And One Huge Scam

#40
post #5

That's like the oldest scam that pretty much every single dating site uses. I'm surprised how TC is shocked...shocked to find that on a dating site. Reddit did the same thing starting out...the only difference is that they didn't try to trick you into paying.

The value reddit users get is from viewing new and interesting content and comments.

The value a user of a dating site gets is the PROSPECT of going on a face to face meeting with another person.

If reddit engineers were good enough to make an AI to post great new great content everyday along with insightful comments and analysis, I'd still go. Hell, that might make me want to go even more often.

If I found out a dating site users were doing the same with messaging, that completely precludes me from getting the value I really want from the site, thus its useless.

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