Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

Post by mstade » Wed, Dec 04, 2019, 1:33 PM UTC

mrec wrote: post #539

londons_explore wrote: post #489

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The original reason was that smart people like career progression. Money alone isn't enough to keep them - they want something good on their business cards. Otherwise some will leave to become CEO of another company. By making a group of companies, you can have many CEO's, more directors, more VP's, etc. and therefore keep hold of more smart people who are after external recognition more than money.

Careerist people like career progression. I think that's largely orthogonal to smarts or lack thereof. I doubt Einstein cared very much what was on his business card. Patrick Bateman certainly did.

Post by syberiyxx » Wed, Dec 04, 2019, 1:57 PM UTC

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> wierdos whot spy on you LOL. I agree with a lot of your points but this one really hit home. On this one, the spying, I always wondered how odd or awkward it had to be internally to push new methods, techniques, or initiatives for "improving user experience" (I.e., spying). I interviewed for some Technical Solutions Engineer role at Google a long time ago. I really wanted the job but when asked a couple questions a…

>I'm still trying to get away from Gmail because I know everything I send/receive is parses but the struggle is real. There's the spying, but then there are also the numerous instances where Google simply terminated someone's account for completely random reasons that their automated system picked up. And you literally cannot ever get a human to talk to you at that company unless you manage to create a social media c…

Post by neuronic » Wed, Dec 04, 2019, 2:04 PM UTC

mrec wrote: post #539

londons_explore wrote: post #489

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original reason was that smart people like career progression. Money alone isn't enough to keep them - they want something good on their business cards. Otherwise some will leave to become CEO of another company. By making a group of companies, you can have many CEO's, more directors, more VP's, etc. and therefore keep hold of more smart people who are after external recognition more than money.

Careerist people like career progression. I think that's largely orthogonal to smarts or lack thereof. I doubt Einstein cared very much what was on his business card. Patrick Bateman certainly did.

Post by mrec » Wed, Dec 04, 2019, 2:08 PM UTC

neuronic wrote: post #556

mrec wrote: post #539

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Careerist people like career progression. I think that's largely orthogonal to smarts or lack thereof. I doubt Einstein cared very much what was on his business card. Patrick Bateman certainly did.

But you forget that to Patrick Bateman the (so called) greater good and broad knowledge expansion or other humanity-propelling criteria weren't nearly as relevant as the question if Patrick Bateman appeared successful. The image of Patrick Bateman was more important to Patrick Bateman than Einstein or his accomplishments.

Post by auiya » Wed, Dec 04, 2019, 2:16 PM UTC

koheripbal wrote: post #540

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> The idea behind that originally was that all of these other projects were going to become so significant that it wouldn't make sense to have them or their management coupled with Google. No, the idea was that they were high risk speculative efforts and that it didn't make sense to have their branding mixed up with Google, which is a stable, established industry leader.

That's a semantic distinction. All major corporations have highly speculative projects that they aren't certain will succeed. With (relatively) minor investments most don't form an umbrella corporation to distinguish them. In this case, I dont see anything else coming out of non-Google alphabet of meaningful significance, and this org change kind of highlights that. In my personal opinion, the Google founders probabl…