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Re: The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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Post by Someone1234 »

tempsy wrote: post #11

Amazing to see how Slack turned from something everyone raved about to something everyone is sort of annoyed with and critical of. Maybe that isn't that surprising for most products as they age/mature but it seems particularly acute with Slack.

“There are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses.” -- Bjarne Stroustrup

I've found this quote extremely true, but not just with programming language but with all things. People complain about Slack because they use Slack a lot, so minor quibbles become a daily frustration.

It is when people go quiet about a product that you should really worry. They're either extremely happy or aren't using it, might be critical to find out which.

Re: The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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Post by varenc »

derimagia wrote: post #36
tasuki wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure Chromium is to blame here. All the WYSIWYGs in all the environments I've ever seen I found fiddly and unpleasant to use.

All that demo uses is a contenteditable div. The bug is definitely is Chromium.

Safari on Mojave and iOS has the same problem...so it'a likely a bug in that's been around since Chromium/Blink forked from WebKit

Re: The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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Post by nitrogen »

beatgammit wrote: post #44
saltcured wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha, I wish I could disable "threads" so nobody else can use them...

I'm glad it's not just me. Threads are terrible and hide potentially important information.

Just to provide a counterpoint, threads are very useful for channels with hundreds of members, so that anyone can ask a question but the responses don't make other questions invisible. In that case, the lack of threads would hide important information.

Re: The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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Post by ajkjk »

soneca wrote: post #48

It is interesting to me that the rant post about Slack's WYSIWYG editor was the 18th most upvoted HN post of all time. No idea what conclusion should I draw from it, if any at all, but surprising for me at least.

I know what I think it is: there's a great deal of latent frustration among the rank and file of this industry, that the people running the show are basically greedy and/or incompetent morons.

For people who are in it for money or status or feeling successful it's not a big deal. For the people who care about products, tools, elegance, and candor, it's absolutely maddening.

It especially doesn't help for a company to spew fake bullshit when it pointlessly changes something. What would it take to get a little candor? Why do all the corporations end up being so candorless? Why does working in this field have to be so depressing?

Re: The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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Post by cygned »

beatgammit wrote: post #44
saltcured wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha, I wish I could disable "threads" so nobody else can use them...

I'm glad it's not just me. Threads are terrible and hide potentially important information.

What Slack needs is a proper way to respond to messages like Telegram/WhatsApp has it.

Re: The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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Post by coryfklein »

saltcured wrote: post #40
agluszak wrote: post #13

Still waiting for an option to disable "drafts" (channels all of a sudden jumping to the top of the channel list)

Ha, I wish I could disable "threads" so nobody else can use them...

We have a culturally enforced strict rule of moving literally ALL new conversations into a subthread and I absolutely LOVE it. This means that if you want to respond to a comment, you never do it in the channel but in the subthread of _that_ comment.

This means that when you browse the channel itself, each individual line represents a conversation on a specific topic. You can essentially browse the "headlines" of the day all in one screen (for most channels), and if you care to hear more about how Bob resolved his problem with those third party build dependencies then you can view the conversation in the subthread.

This also enables folks to opt-in to notifications for channels, if they so desire, without getting overwhelmed with every new message that comes in.

Re: The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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Post by gropius »

mdszy wrote: post #12

"I apologize for the disruption to your existing workflows. Our aim is to build an editor that works for all Slack users to better format their messages and clearly communicate in channels, regardless of their technical expertise. While we are taking all feedback on board, disabling the new formatting tool isn't an option that we will be offering."

> regardless of their technical expertise

Good luck with that. Trying to make one product powerful enough for the techies yet simple enough for the normies is the software equivalent of Napoleon attacking Russia.

Re: The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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Post by tipsysquid »

cygned wrote: post #56
beatgammit wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm glad it's not just me. Threads are terrible and hide potentially important information.

What Slack needs is a proper way to respond to messages like Telegram/WhatsApp has it.

I like threads for this purpose. I really wish I could see a filtered chain of conversation as a subtopic of a main channel. Not sure how UX or exposure to this feature would look, but that wont stop me from dreaming.

Re: The latest version of Slack has a setting to disable the WYSIWYG editor

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Post by wst_ »

cygned wrote: post #56
beatgammit wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm glad it's not just me. Threads are terrible and hide potentially important information.

What Slack needs is a proper way to respond to messages like Telegram/WhatsApp has it.

I'm not really sure I follow. What does the WhatsApp has which is missing in Slack?
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