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Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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I think they will regret it. Google was once a real special company. Their IPO filling, their stance on China, those were principled, courageous stands that came straight from Larry and Sergey. To see their beautiful baby turn into another mega-corp, as hypocritical as any, colonized by activists and careerists bent on distorting the social fabric to advance ideologies and profits? Contemplating that turn of events w…

I think what they learned in the intervening 15 years is that there are very strong structural forces pushing corporations towards the "traditional company" form that everybody hates, and that even as CEO, even as controlling shareholders, they were powerless to stop them. At least, that's what I learned, having worked at Google during the period where "Don't be evil" was still taken seriously, engineers could still…

Were they that powerless, really? Or maybe they got tired and had a falling out and subsequently lost hearth?

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Google's market cap has approximately doubled while Sundar has been the CEO. That's the simplest reason. Personally I think a lot of their products have gotten better recently, like the experience of using voice-controlled Google Maps in my car, and Google Cloud is superior to AWS in many ways, but the company really offers so many different product lines that it's hard for personal experience to be a great represent…

> Google's market cap has approximately doubled while Sundar has been the CEO. It’s hard for me to say that this is because of Sundar and not just because the whole market has grown size and google already had a massive moat to capture it. Apple, MS, Facebook, Amazon all have grown massively in the past 5 years. However Google seems to continue to be a one trick pony - GCP lags behind the competition despite the fact…

I see this meme all the time. What does GCP lag on? What is it missing?

I see a proliferation of AWS services, yes, but many seem to be replicating things that GCP has had since the start, in multiple different formats without clear direction. Bigquery covers most of the use cases of Redshift, Kineseis, Athena, EMR, and others. It is at once decoupled from and well integrated with their object storage, allowing reads and writes with clear translation when necessary. I find myself reaching for Bigquery like semantics all the time and having to cobble two or more AWS tools to get similar. I see the same pattern repeated constantly - If I click "ECS" in the Amazon Console, it wants to sell me ECS, ECR, Fargate, and EKS - All of which overlap in non-obvious ways.

Disclaimer: I'm Ex-google, and was a poweruser of dremel

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Nah, anyone used to reading Google press releases knows that a subject line of, "An Update on X" always means X is being shut down, and thus, "A letter from Larry and Sergey" could mean nothing else except they're stepping down.

This meme has to die. It's time.

But it's still in beta!

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Absolutely nothing about the structural discontent emerging in staff. And nothing about the increasing sense of a loss of claimed ethical stance. I stress claimed, because the lack of concern at the top at its obvious demise makes it less likely it was actually held as a core belief.

As a former Googler who stays in touch, there doesn't seem to be structural discontent emerging in staff. There were a few news stories about people complaining, but Google employs about 100,000 people, so any news story involving less than 1000 of them being unhappy can't really count as "structural discontent".

Hey Lacker. I'd be curious about whether there is a bias around the seniority level/situation in the pool of people you keep in touch with. People I've talked to, ranging from new hires to old timers, have generally trended toward being more discontent and cynical about the company as a whole.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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An ad company has a new CEO. Why is this news?

I'm also not sure what the news is. The (in 2014) new CEO of Microsoft apparently got rid of an entire management layer, that seems like news. Without an intention like that being announced, this is celeb news for nerds and really only tells me it'll be new face same story -- at least until we know more.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Posting this as throwaway because, well, obvious. The heat is on Google and its founders. It goes beyond anything that’s in the press right now. The real question is if regulators and others will allow Sundar to take the heat for everything and keep Larry and Sergey from the “hassle” of having to testify about anti-competitive practices and a whole range of other issues. And then there are the “hobbies” of the early…

Upvoting you because I've heard similar stories from Burning Man regarding Google founders, and in particular Eric Schmidt.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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I see a few comments praising Sundar. As someone who doesn’t follow closely, but feels that Google has deteriorated dramatically under his watch, does someone mind explaining the reasoning for said praise?

He's Ballmer-ing steadily forward, that's all that is really needed at this point.

That's the real tragedy - nothing he can do will fail google at this point. He could do a live stream of oral sex on Youtube, and it wouldn't make a bit of difference. He's already lied through his teeth to Congress.
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