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Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Buried in a paragraph 2/3 of the way down: > ... Going forward, Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet. ... Not knowing the internals of Google, it seems as if this is the announcement that Page and Brin are stepping down. Is this correct? If so, what an incredibly subtle way to announce a high-profile pair of resignations.

Nah, anyone used to reading Google press releases knows that a subject line of, "An Update on X" always means X is being shut down, and thus, "A letter from Larry and Sergey" could mean nothing else except they're stepping down.

I came to the comments to express my disappointment this wasn't titled "an update on Larry and Sergey".

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Please please please, just keep telling Sundar and everyone, "don't be evil".

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For anyone who doesn't know, it's currently in the Code of Conduct, at the very bottom:

> And remember… don’t be evil, and if you see something that you think isn’t right – speak up!

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, what about 20,000 of them? https://www.vox.com/2019/4/23/18512542/google-employee-walko...

The walkout referred to was over a year ago, so I wouldn't call that discontent "emerging". If anything, that demonstrates that discontent is diminishing, because there hasn't been another similar walkout.

Yeah, in the same vein the discontent in Venezuela must be diminishing, as there is been quite some time from the last big demonstrations.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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> Nonetheless, Google’s core service—providing unbiased, accurate, and free access to information—remains at the heart of the company. How is it ok to just say clear lies like this?! Without making any value judgements at all this is blatantly false. The ranking algorithms specifically encode a bias into search results. This is actually explicitly what users want, too! To be clear this is distressing to me because ve…

I cannot tell if you are being serious or you are brainwashed.

My understanding of Google's history is their algorithms started as providing answers that the world already knew but could not find easily.

Over time they had to handle multiple lawsuits, harassments by entrenched groups that were upended by opening up of knowledge.

These adjustments / reactions made the algorithm look biased.

This disputed quote by Cardinal Richelieu comes to mind when I think of people claiming Google is a bad actor.

"If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him"

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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I see a few comments praising Sundar. As someone who doesn’t follow closely, but feels that Google has deteriorated dramatically under his watch, does someone mind explaining the reasoning for said praise?

Google has matured into a regular big corporation. By that standard they are doing well with revenues and earnings growing.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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I see a few comments praising Sundar. As someone who doesn’t follow closely, but feels that Google has deteriorated dramatically under his watch, does someone mind explaining the reasoning for said praise?

Google's market cap has approximately doubled while Sundar has been the CEO. That's the simplest reason.

Personally I think a lot of their products have gotten better recently, like the experience of using voice-controlled Google Maps in my car, and Google Cloud is superior to AWS in many ways, but the company really offers so many different product lines that it's hard for personal experience to be a great representation.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, what about 20,000 of them? https://www.vox.com/2019/4/23/18512542/google-employee-walko...

The walkout referred to was over a year ago, so I wouldn't call that discontent "emerging". If anything, that demonstrates that discontent is diminishing, because there hasn't been another similar walkout.

I think they made every effort possible to cut this at the root, and even retaliate.

the fact that 4 out of 7 of the organizers of the walkout left the company[1], some with more than 10 years working for Google, is rather telling.

I don't think your comment holds water.

[1] https://www.wired.com/story/most-google-walkout-organizers-l...

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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I see a few comments praising Sundar. As someone who doesn’t follow closely, but feels that Google has deteriorated dramatically under his watch, does someone mind explaining the reasoning for said praise?

Honestly, I'm with you on this one. Sundar seems like a good maintainer of the status quo and that's probably wise since the business keeps growing (growing revenue, growing market cap and growing free cash flow), but Google's evolution on cloud infrastructure/services and hardware are honestly kind of lame.

I mentioned those two because they seem to be their big bets now.

When compared to Satya who is thriving with Microsoft, Sundar looks mediocre at best. I don't mean that in a bad way. Perhaps Google doesn't need to have those tectonic changes to produce value. In that case, Sundar's reserved and low-key profile makes more sense, but don't expect a high profile, exuberant and innovation-driven leadership. I think it's clear he is not that type of leader.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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The whole thing reads like it was written by a PR person.

This is exactly the type of thing you have PR people on staff to write though?

Yeah, I highly doubt either CEO wrote this. Its target audience is investors: "Everything is fine, buy more stock."
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