What I find strange that they still don't have specs for the dimensions and weight... That is something they have been very coy about...
Purism Librem 5 Hardware Schematics
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#12Pretty interesting, I hope they make something similar for the laptops. I use an x200 with Libreboot to avoid the proprietary software in new Intel chips and the bios. It's still fast since I use Arch with dwm, but at some point in the future I would like to switch.
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#13Perhaps the Chinese rush to copy their work and sell it cheaper (with malware).
Why would they bother?
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#14Perhaps the Chinese rush to copy their work and sell it cheaper (with malware).
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#15What I find strange that they still don't have specs for the dimensions and weight... That is something they have been very coy about... https://puri.sm/faq/index.html#faq-Whatarethephonespecs
I suspect this has to do with the current scheme of shipping out the devices in iterative "batches." Presumably they are assuming the early batches will be heavy and clunky, with size and weight of each batch decreasing over time as they learn more about manufacturing.
I find this more troubling than the idea of early batches shipping with pre-beta quality software. At least improvements to software can be pushed out to older devices. If you buy an early batch and get a phone the size and weight of a brick, though, that phone is always going to be the size and weight of a brick.
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#16Pretty interesting, I hope they make something similar for the laptops. I use an x200 with Libreboot to avoid the proprietary software in new Intel chips and the bios. It's still fast since I use Arch with dwm, but at some point in the future I would like to switch.
> I hope they make something similar for the laptops
From https://puri.sm/faq/: "We cannot share the schematics nor design currently because it is copyright encumbered from Intel reference designs. In the future, on future versions we plan to be able to release those."
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#17What I find strange that they still don't have specs for the dimensions and weight... That is something they have been very coy about... https://puri.sm/faq/index.html#faq-Whatarethephonespecs
I suspect this has to do with the current scheme of shipping out the devices in iterative "batches." Presumably they are assuming the early batches will be heavy and clunky, with size and weight of each batch decreasing over time as they learn more about manufacturing. I find this more troubling than the idea of early batches shipping with pre-beta quality software. At least improvements to software can be pushed out…
You have to opt in to the early batches and don't they post photos showing how ugly it is? It seems like customers are informed about what they're getting.
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#18Perhaps the Chinese rush to copy their work and sell it cheaper (with malware).
Why would they bother?
Arduino, Trezor, and 3D printers (I forget the name) have all been cloned. It's a real concern for companies that are trying to fund open hardware R&D by marking up the hardware.
Currently I doubt there's enough demand for the Librem phone to justify cloning though.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
There have been a few reviews popping up. Here are some: https://0net.io/1EwAh4KUfGgRw1re7uyrmTUWKZYV9SHVcW/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Purism/comments/e2mqgb/i_have_my_li...
Also: https://azdle.net/2019/11/comparing-apples-and-gnomes/
Can confirm, I am not a promoter / paid reviewer / internal employee.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would they bother?
Arduino, Trezor, and 3D printers (I forget the name) have all been cloned. It's a real concern for companies that are trying to fund open hardware R&D by marking up the hardware. Currently I doubt there's enough demand for the Librem phone to justify cloning though.
Well Prusa, the creator of the most cloned and world most popular 3D printer design is happy about all the clones. And they occupy different spaces in the market. Clones are $250 and the Prusa is $1000. And yet business is booming. As an open hardware creator myself my hope is always that someone else better at manufacturing will clone my work so I can source from them and focus on whatever reasons I had for making the hardware.