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Launch HN: Buy Me a Coffee (YC W19) – Give your audience a way to thank you

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Re: Launch HN: Buy Me a Coffee (YC W19) – Give your audience a way to thank you

#82
Does "buy me a coffee" support, or plan to support, the option to send money directly to charities rather than creators? I feel like this would make both the creator and the consumer feel their money is doing the most good, as it's both thanking the creator and helping someone in need at the same time.

Part of that could be to create a new class of payee, and then add an integration so that a creator can internally redirect payments to a particular payee. As part of the redirect you register something separate from a "payment" that you would display for the creator's page ("N people have donated Z dollars to Y on behalf of X"), and then the final payee would also have its own independent "payment" register ("N people have donated Z dollars to Y"). Don't know what the tax implications (if any) would be.

Re: Launch HN: Buy Me a Coffee (YC W19) – Give your audience a way to thank you

#83

Been using it for a while and like it so far. A downside for me is that from every $3 coffee paid by supporters, I only receive $2.39 in my Paypal account :(

>Been using it for a while and like it so far. A downside for me is that from every $3 coffee paid by supporters, I only receive $2.39 in my Paypal account :( Their pricing page claims the fee is only 5%. Is this not true?

From what I've read in this thread it sounds like:

Donor $ -> PayPal/Stripe, subtract Coffee's taste with Coffee never touching the donor's money per their comments in this thread -> Creator's PayPal/Stripe minus any PayPal/Stripe fees.

I'm guessing that's just PayPal taking their cut from the creator on top of Coffee taking their cut. It looks like they had an idea, got into YC, then were like "eh, let's just be Patreon 2: Electric Boogaloo." and then did the payment processing the simplest way they could.

This effectively makes it: "Don't pay the creator via PayPal/Stripe, instead let us act as a pseudo-affiliate and go ahead and keep 5% of that for ourselves and then we'll tell PayPal/Stripe to pay the donor for you. In exchange we'll tell people that visit our website that you supported the creator".

It appears they add no value to the transaction that can't already be obtained from Patreon. They're just a much smaller outfit, with a horribly buggy website with partially baked features and apparently consistently unpleasant mobile experience.

Re: Launch HN: Buy Me a Coffee (YC W19) – Give your audience a way to thank you

#84

When I click the signup link, I get a message that by signing up, I agree to your terms. But I don't see a link to those terms in the message, and I can't find a link to those terms anywhere else on the main page. I also can't find your privacy policy. A couple of questions on that front: - Do your terms include mandatory arbitration agreements for creators? - Do your terms include mandatory arbitration agreements fo…

Mousing over the word "Terms" in "By signing up, you agree to our Terms." on the sign up page linked me to https://www.buymeacoffee.com/terms .

Re: Launch HN: Buy Me a Coffee (YC W19) – Give your audience a way to thank you

#85
post #2

Nice. A lot better than alcohol.

"But me a coffee" isn't literally coffee. It's a way of asking for $5 or so but making it sound more palatable as "well you are just buying a mate a coffee" which people normally do rather than "you are transacting $5 on the internet to a stranger" which people might be more reluctant to do.

But the money won't be spent on coffee, otherwise the influencer will OD. "Buy me a chance to escape the rat race" might be a more accurate title.

Re: Launch HN: Buy Me a Coffee (YC W19) – Give your audience a way to thank you

#86
post #84

When I click the signup link, I get a message that by signing up, I agree to your terms. But I don't see a link to those terms in the message, and I can't find a link to those terms anywhere else on the main page. I also can't find your privacy policy. A couple of questions on that front: - Do your terms include mandatory arbitration agreements for creators? - Do your terms include mandatory arbitration agreements fo…

Mousing over the word "Terms" in "By signing up, you agree to our Terms." on the sign up page linked me to https://www.buymeacoffee.com/terms .

Mousing over doesn't work on mobile, of course. But "Terms" is a link, so tapping it on mobile works.

But... The link is styled identically to normal text, both on desktop and mobile! There is no way to know that it is a link until you actively interact with it.

Re: Launch HN: Buy Me a Coffee (YC W19) – Give your audience a way to thank you

#87
Reading https://www.buymeacoffee.com/terms

These potentially seem like some fairly onerous restrictions, and would potentially exclude nearly all of my favorite youtube channels.

What is your definition of "creators who involve with:" - does this only cover content posted on your site, or any content the creator makes across any publicly available service? To what extent can creators discuss these topics if they don't actively manufacture/promote/distribute them?

Could you be more specific about creators that are "involved in weapons" - is this anything that can be used as a weapon or specific to military/semi-military applications? Would Joerg Sprave's slingshot channel be prohibited? What about someone who makes videos about forging/sharpening knives? Are creators who discuss war journalistically or historically disqualified? Non-miltary RC drone hobbyists like Tom Stanton?

"Chemicals" seems pretty vague. Does this preclude all chemistry and biochem related content? I'm a big fan of channels like NileRed, CodysLab and ThoughtEmporium, would they be prohibited? Would videos which discuss water treatment or concrete chemistry or metallurgy be disqualifying?

"seeds or plants" - are creators who discuss gardening or farming disqualified? Cooking vegetables? Primitive Technology-style makers which discuss creating objects from plant materials?

How do you define "adult" content? Does this include creators working on LGBTQIA activism? Does this include creators who create instructional content while showing non-nipple cleavage? Does this include creators involved in sex-ed/harm reduction campaigns?

Also, are there any geographic restrictions? Can creators outside the US use your service (in countries which are NOT on the US OFAC sanction list)?

Re: Launch HN: Buy Me a Coffee (YC W19) – Give your audience a way to thank you

#88
>We do not allow adult content

I just expressly wanted to un-thank you for this.

Sincerely hope you would either change this - or fail. It's 2019, and "adult" content creators could do with less of this nonsense.

Erotic content creators (let's call things what they are) drink coffee too.

Re: Launch HN: Buy Me a Coffee (YC W19) – Give your audience a way to thank you

#89
post #10

No pricing information before sign-up? It's not likely that this is a novel idea to anyone signing up, so the number one thing they want to know (surely?) is 'how much are you skimming'. Personally I'm not willing to sign-up first in the hope that maybe more 'how do I actually use this and what does it cost me' information is available afterwards.

sorry for the confusion. It was there until we recently redesigned our homepage to focus more on our creators and less on the features. We're planning to add an FAQ section on the homepage.

So... what is the pricing?

Re: Launch HN: Buy Me a Coffee (YC W19) – Give your audience a way to thank you

#90
post #88

>We do not allow adult content I just expressly wanted to un-thank you for this. Sincerely hope you would either change this - or fail. It's 2019, and "adult" content creators could do with less of this nonsense. Erotic content creators (let's call things what they are) drink coffee too.

I don’t believe it’s up to them, but their payment processor. E.g. if you would use Stripe for adult content, you wouldn’t be able to process any payments at all quite quickly.
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