Using this system would mean dedicating a total of at least 3x the length of each lecture to a given topic per day. With 3-4 classes per day, you wouldn't have time to do anything else and also sleep.
The Cornell Note-taking System (2001)
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#22Penus Anis.
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#23Using this system would mean dedicating a total of at least 3x the length of each lecture to a given topic per day. With 3-4 classes per day, you wouldn't have time to do anything else and also sleep.
I think that 3x is a pretty standard recommentation. For instace, a quick google gave a first link (from cliffnotes.com) that says this.
Here's a guideline to what freshman can expect throughout their college years: Each unit of credit requires 2 to 3 hours of outside classwork per week. So, a student carrying 15 credit hours should plan to spend 30 to 45 hours each week studying beyond the classroom.
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#24I used a form of this system to take notes when I participated in the first cohort of Udacity's "Self-driving Car Engineer Nanodegree" a few years ago. I found it very useful, and ended up filling about 3 notebooks (one sided) worth of notes for the effort.
I say "form of the system", because I wasn't as formal with it, and didn't do the "bottom page summary" - but it still worked well for note taking; I think the very act of doing these notes "hands on" helped with deeper understanding and retaining of the material.
On a side note - one other thing I learned from that class was to never again take a MOOC course on the first iteration; you are essentially the "guinea pig" experiment for beta testing it, and that can be a frustrating experience at times.
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#25Using this system would mean dedicating a total of at least 3x the length of each lecture to a given topic per day. With 3-4 classes per day, you wouldn't have time to do anything else and also sleep.
I think that 3x is a pretty standard recommentation. For instace, a quick google gave a first link (from cliffnotes.com) that says this. Here's a guideline to what freshman can expect throughout their college years: Each unit of credit requires 2 to 3 hours of outside classwork per week. So, a student carrying 15 credit hours should plan to spend 30 to 45 hours each week studying beyond the classroom.
per week, but not per day.
If a student has 3-4 classes a day, they can't reasonably spend 9-12 hours working solely on digesting those lectures that day. They'll have homework at the very least, likely some ongoing projects, normal human activities -- not to mention that in the US they probably also have a part-time (or full time) job.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interesting: I have icons I tag for action items I have to take (* but I draw it as a 5 pointed star) (note that passing things on, and producing something are both action items for me), questions I have (?), and things that are important, surprising or urgent (!).
Agreed, icons is the way to go here for meeting note-taking. I use a box for things I want to make sure get covered during the meeting, and I check it off after I bring it up or someone else does. And I use a triangle next to a box for things I want to follow up with someone privately or ask about off line after the meeting. And the very important star for things I don’t want to forget or that are important. Most peo…
Whether you are aware and just didn't mention it, or are not aware that you have essentially recreated the bullet journal (see: a search engine), might as well go all the way and get a Leuchtturm 1917 notebook for the new year. It has page numbers and a table of contents pre-printed for you. $20, but for something that pretty much lasts the whole year, not overly expensive.
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#27Why should every student record the lecture with notes? Isn't it better if they get a copy of the lecture notes, and they only add their own notes, thereby paying more attention to the lecture instead of copying things manually which can be printed/photocopied for all sutdents?
Most students find the process of taking notes AIDS the assimilation of information in lecture. Just listening doesn't work as well for most people.
I don't think most students have A/B tested themselves on it. Meanwhile outside of school much is remembered without note taking, and what's not is captured for later lookup in superior ways.
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#28Ha! This was mentioned on an Ask HN last week ("Things to learn in one hour")!
I like this explanation better (gives a better visual of how it's useful):
https://stanford.box.com/shared/static/olhy2yxfjwfw9ozflf4g....
(In case you don't trust "box.com", the PDF is linked in the "Tools" footer here: https://duckstop.stanford.edu/blog-category/note-taking)
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#29Using this system would mean dedicating a total of at least 3x the length of each lecture to a given topic per day. With 3-4 classes per day, you wouldn't have time to do anything else and also sleep.
Sure, but you always need roughly that amount, or more, to get a deep understanding of new material. MIT operates on a 1:3 ratio of lecture to review, Cambridge is even higher.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed, icons is the way to go here for meeting note-taking. I use a box for things I want to make sure get covered during the meeting, and I check it off after I bring it up or someone else does. And I use a triangle next to a box for things I want to follow up with someone privately or ask about off line after the meeting. And the very important star for things I don’t want to forget or that are important. Most peo…
Whether you are aware and just didn't mention it, or are not aware that you have essentially recreated the bullet journal (see: a search engine), might as well go all the way and get a Leuchtturm 1917 notebook for the new year. It has page numbers and a table of contents pre-printed for you. $20, but for something that pretty much lasts the whole year, not overly expensive.
Understood! My system started with franklin covey from back in the day, but I need graph paper for my notes for various reasons.