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How Facebook Avoids Ad Blockers

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Re: How Facebook Avoids Ad Blockers

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Post by _ikke_ »

hamhand wrote: post #118
1propionyl wrote: post #53

I'm surprised I haven't seen a single comment say what ought to be the obvious: the easiest way to never see Facebook ads is to just not use Facebook. I should hope I'm preaching to the choir, I'm sure, but... quitting really isn't as hard as you tell yourself it is. It's not as essential as you think it is.

127.0.0.1 connect.facebook.net 127.0.0.1 graph.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 staticxx.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 api.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 an.facebook.com

I typically use 0.0.0.0 rather than 127.0.0.1, then it's not even reachable.

Re: How Facebook Avoids Ad Blockers

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Post by aembleton »

wtmt wrote: post #98
thatswrong0 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean one look at the website kind of tells you why. The extension could be a lot less intrusive as well - just compare it to uBlock Origin for example. There doesn't need to be an onboarding message. I don't need to see "F.B. Purity hid:" prominently in the middle of my feed - just put that at the bottom right of the screen in gray text or in the extension. Etc. I'm probably going to uninstall it because it makes F…

You could check out Social Fixer. [1] It's been around for several years, is free and offers many features. The creator/maintainer of Social Fixer was also interviewed in Ars Technica. [1]: https://socialfixer.com/index.html

Unfortunately it's not supported on mobile Firefox.

Re: How Facebook Avoids Ad Blockers

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Post by tempguy9999 »

_ikke_ wrote: post #131
hamhand wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

127.0.0.1 connect.facebook.net 127.0.0.1 graph.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 staticxx.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 api.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 an.facebook.com

I typically use 0.0.0.0 rather than 127.0.0.1, then it's not even reachable.

Genuine question, it can't possibly be reachable on 127 anyway can it?

Put another way, what's the difference between 0 and 127 here? What makes it safer? TIA

Re: How Facebook Avoids Ad Blockers

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Post by Tenoke »

iamkroot wrote: post #14

I continue to be surprised at how few people have heard of fbpurity[1], a fantastic browser extension that blocks all Facebook ads and lets you filter out specific types of content (links, memories, etc.). It's dramatically improved my Facebook experience; I now see exactly the type of content that I want to see (updates on friend's lives) and nothing more. [1] https://www.fbpurity.com/

I use it to order group posts by time, so I can use groups as forums. It's nice for that. However, their UI and worse, the defaults are not great so I can see why it's not all that popular.

Re: How Facebook Avoids Ad Blockers

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Post by anoncake »

1propionyl wrote: post #53

I'm surprised I haven't seen a single comment say what ought to be the obvious: the easiest way to never see Facebook ads is to just not use Facebook. I should hope I'm preaching to the choir, I'm sure, but... quitting really isn't as hard as you tell yourself it is. It's not as essential as you think it is.

> It's not as essential as you think it is.

Please don't tell people you don't even know what their lives are like

Re: How Facebook Avoids Ad Blockers

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Post by rwnspace »

tempguy9999 wrote: post #133
_ikke_ wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I typically use 0.0.0.0 rather than 127.0.0.1, then it's not even reachable.

Genuine question, it can't possibly be reachable on 127 anyway can it? Put another way, what's the difference between 0 and 127 here? What makes it safer? TIA

Not OP but read about it on this hosts config [0].

From that page:

> We prefer to use 0.0.0.0, which is defined as a non-routable meta-address used to designate an invalid, unknown, or non applicable target.

> Using 0.0.0.0 is empirically faster, possibly because there's no wait for a timeout resolution. It also does not interfere with a web server that may be running on the local PC.

[0] https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts

Re: How Facebook Avoids Ad Blockers

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Post by rvnx »

grogenaut wrote: post #39
rabidrat wrote: post #35

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This is a really good observation. What if we required all ad-based services to make available an equivalent premium offering that showed no ads? I think 99% of people would be stunned at the necessary price and would not pay it anyway, but at least it would be quantified.

not sure this is true. Twitch has Ad Free Turbo, it's about $15/month. Youtube had Red, similar price. Both have customers. The real issue is that with google or FB I don't know that I'm not still being sold all over the place. I only know with Twitch because I work there. Also Youtube has been ratcheting up the ads like crazy lately, and I'm very sure red isn't worth it for me personally.

Well you know, your data is not directly sold. Your data with Google just as part of targeting campaigns ("User is high spender in Google") or equivalent in DoubleClick and Twitch/Amazon is on its way. If you prefer, we don't give to someone the info that IP A.B.C.D but we sell the possibility to target IP A.B.C.D with an ad. It's not "selling" data, but still monetizing it.

Re: How Facebook Avoids Ad Blockers

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Post by GeneralMaximus »

qxnqd wrote: post #113
Nextgrid wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least poker doesn't have a negative effect on society, given you're only playing against people who opt-in by playing the game. This in comparison is fighting against people who just want a bit of peace and less sewage being dumped in their Facebook timeline.

Facebook has a negative effect on society according to whom? How does a tool that allows you to connect to other people have a "negative effect on society"?

People get lynched and killed every day in my country (India) because of hate-speech on Facebook, not to mention all the fake news being spread via WhatsApp.

If Facebook were to disappear tomorrow, it would be a net positive for the world.

Re: How Facebook Avoids Ad Blockers

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Post by [deleted] »

1propionyl wrote: post #53

I'm surprised I haven't seen a single comment say what ought to be the obvious: the easiest way to never see Facebook ads is to just not use Facebook. I should hope I'm preaching to the choir, I'm sure, but... quitting really isn't as hard as you tell yourself it is. It's not as essential as you think it is.

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