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PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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> And in the VPN world, trust is fundamental. Why do you say this? Isn't it generally believed that most/all large VPN services are monitored specifically by the governments of the countries in which they operate?

...no?

Why would VPN providers be excluded from national governments' internet surveillance systems? If anything, I'd think they'd get extra scrutiny.

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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Disappointed. I've been with PIA for a few years now and I always recommended them and loved their support. I just cancelled my annual subscription which was due to expire in 100 days. Vote with your wallet. Any recommendations for a new VPN provider?

Recently started using windscribe and found it extremely good.

https://windscribe.com/?friend=qoeb14pf

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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This article and articles like this miscast Kape in an incorrect light. To be clear, in the past the company was known as CrossRider and provided a developer SDK that could be used to integrate with browsers. Unfortunately, CrossRider didn't do enough to prevent malware (like platforms these days and their fake news) and the platform was used by some bad people for bad purposes. When the new management team of CrossR…

Trust and ethics are important. A company that is identified as using questionable ethics in business, for an extended period, is not automatically "reset to neutral" by airdropping in a new management team and a rebrand. Honestly? That sounds more like a move to bury the bad news, which has a long and effective history, just as the day a story goes public does - The Friday News Dump, Thanksgiving News Dump, etc. So, for this PIA user, Kape are in significant negative territory that needs making up to even hit neutral again.

Transparency is verification, but it is critical you like what you see. With the newly formed Kape link, owned by Teddy Sagi with extensive links to other online advertising companies, mobile advertising and online gambling. Nothing good for humanity is done by his investments. No, don't like what I see at all. With the reputation PIA had I'm actually really surprised you chose to be associated with such a stable as Sagi's.

My sub is due for renewal shortly into the New Year. It won't be.

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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post #95

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Given Kape's past history, I'm skeptical that PIA will be able to maintain their current levels of privacy regarding data mining and logging. I'm willing to give PIA the benefit of the doubt and accept that they believe they'll be able to do so, but as is the case in mergers like these, sometimes you simply lose that battle with your new corporate partner. My fear is that they end up doing the same level of shady act…

Why do you have the belief that the government in the country that the VPN provider is operating is not logging everything that goes into or out of the provider (with or without the provider's knowledge)? It seems pretty plain to me; Mullvad's website even has the relevant section on Swedish legislation that requires it for national defense. I just don't see how trust in a provider has any bearing whatsoever on the p…

Using a VPN is only one piece of maintaining privacy online. It doesn't eliminate the need for end-to-end encryption when dealing with material you wouldn't want third parties to have access to.

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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> Some people whistleblow, while others develop software, and many lecture and teach people. And most have no problems with what they saw or did, and many used the contacts and knowledge gained from that background to further their civilian careers in the field and continue to maintain those connections and shared goals therewith.

Excuse if I'm wrong, but is the implication that this should not occur at all? I'm not sure how that's even possible.

Sure, it happens all the time. But the implications depend on context.

It's not a huge issue that Palantir is loaded with former CIA and NSA people. Except about financial issues.

But former intelligence folk running a VPN service? That makes one wonder what their goals actually are. That is, "maintain those connections and shared goals therewith".

Many don't trust the Tor Project, for just that reason.

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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post #4

This article and articles like this miscast Kape in an incorrect light. To be clear, in the past the company was known as CrossRider and provided a developer SDK that could be used to integrate with browsers. Unfortunately, CrossRider didn't do enough to prevent malware (like platforms these days and their fake news) and the platform was used by some bad people for bad purposes. When the new management team of CrossR…

So a company that was so badly associated with malware they had to rebrand thought buying a privacy focused VPN company would be a good fit?

Regardless of how they’ve changed, the internet never forgets and it’s incredible no one involved considered the optics of selling a VPN company to a company associated with malware.

IMO you’re likely 100% above board here and they’re a reformed company, but it doesn’t matter. It looks bad.

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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post #95
post #84

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What is it that you believe that PIA is doing or is likely to do, that you believe this service is not/will not be doing?

Given Kape's past history, I'm skeptical that PIA will be able to maintain their current levels of privacy regarding data mining and logging. I'm willing to give PIA the benefit of the doubt and accept that they believe they'll be able to do so, but as is the case in mergers like these, sometimes you simply lose that battle with your new corporate partner. My fear is that they end up doing the same level of shady act…

> Since PIA was in debt, it doesn't sound like maintaining the current service as is would be profitable.

Private Internet Access is very profitable [1] and our new partner’s action of merging with PIA speaks louder than words whether privacy is important to them.

[1] https://investors.kape.com/~/media/Files/K/Kape-IR/reports-a... (Slide 5)

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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Thank you for your recommendations. We are working on and hope to go beyond the world of trust. We are now, the most transparent VPN as there are requirements to be transparent when you are a public company. We don't want people to be stuck with having to blindly believe in and trust us like other VPNs. Don't trust. Verify.

Actually, I do my best to hedge relying on trust. But Kape is just way too beyond the pale. Perhaps it's unfair, but the association with Israeli intelligence, and so indirectly with NGO Group and the NSA, is just too much.

This company has no association with the Israeli intelligence whatsoever. Many, many of the Israelis involved in the technology world have served in the IDF Intelligence Corps (being that Israel has mandatory conscription and the intel corps select the best and brightest).
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