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RMS: GitHub has done terrible harm to our community

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Re: RMS: GitHub has done terrible harm to our community

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I am sure it would work just fine.

I think you underestimate the impact of GNU on your daily life. Sure, someone else might have made the same things, but in this timeline RMS did and by removing him, most of the software you are currently using falls apart.

You mean the 98% of people world wide that doesn't use GNU software?

Re: RMS: GitHub has done terrible harm to our community

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> Because reasonable people already know how /letting people use/modify/redistribute modifications is good for software/ and don't need a /license/ to tell them. I've never seen a case where a /copyleft license/ improved software. Don't you see the absurdity of the argument ?

If we didn't have copyright law then your comparison would make sense.

... And if people were truly reasonable then your original statement would make sense.

Re: RMS: GitHub has done terrible harm to our community

#123

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Linus' use of explicit language was exactly something that should be used as an example. He rarely attacked people, but instead attacked the actions that they did or ideas that they had.

"""My flippant attacks in emails have been both unprofessional and uncalled for. Especially at times when I made it personal.""" https://www.businessinsider.com/linus-torvalds-linux-time-aw...

He made those remarks after he pretty much was forced to "professionalize" by The Foundation.

I do agree however that at no times should criticism of code or work become personal.

Re: RMS: GitHub has done terrible harm to our community

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"""My flippant attacks in emails have been both unprofessional and uncalled for. Especially at times when I made it personal.""" https://www.businessinsider.com/linus-torvalds-linux-time-aw...

He made those remarks after he pretty much was forced to "professionalize" by The Foundation. I do agree however that at no times should criticism of code or work become personal.

I'm not sure what point you're making here? In hindsight, he views his words as inappropriate. I'm not sure I understand what the temporal distance between the words and the apology has to do with how appropriate they were.

Re: RMS: GitHub has done terrible harm to our community

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If we didn't have copyright law then your comparison would make sense.

... And if people were truly reasonable then your original statement would make sense.

People don't have a legal duty to act unreasonably. In your analogy they would...

Re: RMS: GitHub has done terrible harm to our community

#126
post #104

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If by intended you mean driving away reasonable people that want to make software not get involved in politically motivated drama and moral panics then yes.

Reasonable people treat others with respect, humanity and humility. Reasonable people will have no problem with mandating such treatment of all contributors. Reasonable people won’t let their ego force them to oppose respectful conduct simply because it’s codified. Reasonable people don’t believe their technical prowess entitles them to be dicks. Seems reasonable, eh?

Ironically I would probably not violate a coc. But I won't ever know because I won't do volunteer work in my free time under such conditions.
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