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PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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Their ios support isn’t great. I’m using ExpressVPN and while they cost more (as much as 3 times as these budget services) they so far seem to offer a fast product. You can also sign up with crypto currency if you want.

> You can also sign up with crypto currency if you want. But can you renew with Bitcoin etc?

Yes.

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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This article and articles like this miscast Kape in an incorrect light. To be clear, in the past the company was known as CrossRider and provided a developer SDK that could be used to integrate with browsers. Unfortunately, CrossRider didn't do enough to prevent malware (like platforms these days and their fake news) and the platform was used by some bad people for bad purposes. When the new management team of CrossR…

Changing of ownership fundamentally resets the trust we all had in PIA, which was due to you having proven in court you deliver on what you declare.

And in the VPN world, trust is fundamental.

I am still surprised you didn't see this coming.

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

#43
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Former PIA user who recently just moved to Mullvad [1]. Very transparent about their operations and they don't require any information from you to open an account. You can even mail them cash or pay with cryptocurrency to avoid having your real identity financially linked to your subscription. [1] https://mullvad.net/en/

Mullvad is who I decided on after this story came to light. I used that one privacy guys website Excel sheet comparison thing plus personal recommendations.

https://thatoneprivacysite.net/

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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ProtonVPN, I use them for email as well. They got in a bit of hot water for helping with the legal case for one of their users, but generally I like to think that if I'm not committing any crimes I'll be ok, come what may.

Do you have information on that? Quick searches didn't find much for me. Thanks.

Here are some useful posts:

https://www.securityweek.com/protonmail-accused-voluntarily-...

https://www.neowin.net/news/protonmail-confirms-it-helped-in...

"Drug dealer post" with ProtonMail response: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/dd5dkk/warning_...

Search for "court order" on ProtonMail subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/search/?q=court%20order&...

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

#45
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Just a general question about VPN services in general. When they advertise that they have hundreds of servers in a dozen or so countries, is it even possible to think that they are able to secure all of that themselves? Surely some State actor with enough know-how is going to be able to hack into some of the servers, right?

> When they advertise that they have hundreds of servers in a dozen or so countries... ... they're often lying. In particular, servers in exotic locations are almost always the result of "creative" routing, and are physically located in a more standard country. https://restoreprivacy.com/vpn-server-locations/

I really like the methodology in this blog post. It's creative and low-tech, easy to replicate, and came to interesting, important conclusions.

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

#46
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Thank you for your recommendations. We are working on and hope to go beyond the world of trust. We are now, the most transparent VPN as there are requirements to be transparent when you are a public company. We don't want people to be stuck with having to blindly believe in and trust us like other VPNs. Don't trust. Verify.

Actually, I do my best to hedge relying on trust. But Kape is just way too beyond the pale. Perhaps it's unfair, but the association with Israeli intelligence, and so indirectly with NGO Group and the NSA, is just too much.

In the security and cryptography community I think you'd be hard pressed to find people without similar backgrounds. I think being exposed to how insecure the world is and to what levels drives people to secure the world and empowers people to provide privacy and security to people.

Some people whistleblow, while others develop software, and many lecture and teach people.

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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Do you have information on that? Quick searches didn't find much for me. Thanks.

Here are some useful posts: https://www.securityweek.com/protonmail-accused-voluntarily-... https://www.neowin.net/news/protonmail-confirms-it-helped-in... "Drug dealer post" with ProtonMail response: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/dd5dkk/warning_... Search for "court order" on ProtonMail subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/search/?q=court%20order&...

Got it. I'm comfortable with their level of engagement here, so long as the encryption wasn't breachable.

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

#49
This kind of seems like a national security concern, which the US government would want to block the acquisition. Given it's US company that has access to a ton on US traffic it's certainly reasonable that a state actor would want all that data.
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