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PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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Just a general question about VPN services in general. When they advertise that they have hundreds of servers in a dozen or so countries, is it even possible to think that they are able to secure all of that themselves? Surely some State actor with enough know-how is going to be able to hack into some of the servers, right?

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Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

#32
post #14

Disappointed. I've been with PIA for a few years now and I always recommended them and loved their support. I just cancelled my annual subscription which was due to expire in 100 days. Vote with your wallet. Any recommendations for a new VPN provider?

ProtonVPN, I use them for email as well. They got in a bit of hot water for helping with the legal case for one of their users, but generally I like to think that if I'm not committing any crimes I'll be ok, come what may.

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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post #25

This could do without the clickbait title. "former Israeli spy" is obviously trying to make you think of something nefarious, even though there are no details besides where they worked. I was in an intel unit when I was in the military, and there's a lot of general IT people, managers, etc. It's deliberately deceptive to label anyone who has ever worked at an intel agency as a "spy".

His LinkedIn indicates that he was a developer in the unit that created the Student Virus... Spy has a broad definition but it probably fits for a SigInt developer in the Israeli military.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_8200

This Unit is litterally 10000 people, is the largest in the Israeli army and handles the vast majority of computer security things. So still does not say much.

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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post #7

Just a general question about VPN services in general. When they advertise that they have hundreds of servers in a dozen or so countries, is it even possible to think that they are able to secure all of that themselves? Surely some State actor with enough know-how is going to be able to hack into some of the servers, right?

Security effort scales with number of servers only if you’re doing something deeply wrong (like not using configuration management).

That's only partially true.

A big part of security is your relationship with the people providing you hosting.

The compromises to nordvpn and others came from a rogue hosting company, for instance.

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

#35
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've recommended PIA for years. But no longer. I just don't trust Kape.

Thank you for your recommendations. We are working on and hope to go beyond the world of trust. We are now, the most transparent VPN as there are requirements to be transparent when you are a public company. We don't want people to be stuck with having to blindly believe in and trust us like other VPNs. Don't trust. Verify.

Actually, I do my best to hedge relying on trust.

But Kape is just way too beyond the pale.

Perhaps it's unfair, but the association with Israeli intelligence, and so indirectly with NGO Group and the NSA, is just too much.

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The merger agreement includes a written guarantee to never log. I don't think there is any other VPN that has that, and I _know_ that many other VPNs will not sign that with us.

The idea of suing a shell corp of an intelligence agency for breach of contract seems laughable. Maybe they aren't that, but why should anybody without personal knowledge of the situation trust that they aren't? This is the sort of scenario where 'better safe than sorry' overrules giving the benifit of the doubt.

That is a great question - all of our information is public whereas most other VPN companies go out of their way to hide where they are located and who they are.

Verification and transparency are more important than trust.

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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post #22
post #14

Disappointed. I've been with PIA for a few years now and I always recommended them and loved their support. I just cancelled my annual subscription which was due to expire in 100 days. Vote with your wallet. Any recommendations for a new VPN provider?

I just did this and added the reason why. They very quickly emailed me a canned response to this issue. Apparently it's a big deal and lots of people are leaving.

I did unsubscribe a couple weeks ago and got a canned response too, almost immediately.

When your business is privacy and trust, any acquisition is problematic. Let alone an acquisition from a company with a similar track record.

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

#38
post #14

Disappointed. I've been with PIA for a few years now and I always recommended them and loved their support. I just cancelled my annual subscription which was due to expire in 100 days. Vote with your wallet. Any recommendations for a new VPN provider?

Cryptostorm, ProtonVPN, Mullvad are all good choices.

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

#39
post #14

Disappointed. I've been with PIA for a few years now and I always recommended them and loved their support. I just cancelled my annual subscription which was due to expire in 100 days. Vote with your wallet. Any recommendations for a new VPN provider?

ProtonVPN, I use them for email as well. They got in a bit of hot water for helping with the legal case for one of their users, but generally I like to think that if I'm not committing any crimes I'll be ok, come what may.

Do you have information on that? Quick searches didn't find much for me. Thanks.

Re: PIA VPN to be acquired by malware company founded by former Israeli spy

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Whether this is true or not isn’t really the point. The fact that it it’s even possible is a huge red flag for my use case / threat model. It’s relatively easy, not to mention cheap (less than $10 per month) to spin up a streisand (0) instance and protect myself that way. As long as I keep my traffic encrypted, I can keep most / all of the vultures away that I’m concerned about. Happy to walk anyone through it. Takes…

These approaches work (and I use one myself in addition to a group VPN) but remember, if you roll your own, you lose any/all plausible deniability for sure.
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