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The world needs more search engines
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Re: The world needs more search engines
#52What happens to our data when this empire falls?
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#53How did such blatant advertisement make it to the top of HN? The article quality here has really been going downhill.
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#54Nah, two or more search engines all being the product of US big techs won't solve the problem. EU should have its own search engine. They should subsidize this effort and have Google pay for it.
Yes, I'm really looking forward to an inferior, super-censored version of Google (hate speech laws, anti-piracy laws, right to be forgotten laws, etc) paid with my taxes.
I'll save you some future embarrassment and point out that Google complies with all applicable laws in the territories it provides search (including "hate speech laws, anti-piracy laws, right to be forgotten laws").
Re: The world needs more search engines
#55Feel free to go use Bing. It's been an option for 10 years.
Re: The world needs more search engines
#56It is impressive what they built. The results are quite good! The UI shows innovative elements like trackers used on the page.
I see two problems with their approach:
1. The product is not built with the 'grandma test' mindset.
More sliders and widgets is not what your grandma wants in a search engine. This is why building a search engine is hard. You have to guess with very little information what the user wants and get it in front of them at first try, without the user having to tweak anything.
2. Google must not fall because it is a monopoly. If it was to fall it should be because someone built a better product.
Similar to how ICE cars had "monopoly" over transportation and the time for change has thankfully come. Not because monopolies are bad, but because electric cars are so freaking awesome.
Google perfected what the 'best search engine' is to 99% of population. This comes at an expense of really annoying 1% of users but it is the price they are willing to pay. To de-throne Google you really need to cater to broad population with a product that will be better both at capturing intent and delivering and presenting relevant results. This may or not come with a different business model.
Re: The world needs more search engines
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've heard that rhetoric somewhere else, and I expect having Google pay for it will go about as well as having Mexico fund a wall across the border with the US. But the European taxpayer should absolutely pay for it.
making a search engine is not that hard or expensive, getting users to switch to it after decades of relying on and trusting google is
I would actually argue that making a good search engine with quality and responsiveness worldwide rivaling Google web search turns out to be an architecturally hard problem.
A basic web crawler is not. A semantic web crawler and associated search engine capable of mapping real human input to useful information and dealing with the heterogeneous structure of data on the web, with low millisecond latency?
Bing has been working on that problem for years now, how come they haven't caught up more with Google?
Re: The world needs more search engines
#58I'm more than happy with DuckDuckGo. I would love more specialized search engines. Back in the day I've used several search engines depending the task i needed to perform, from Altavista to Yahoo to Google.
Isn't DDG just white labeling search results from Bing?
Re: The world needs more search engines
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not really a comparison that makes sense. Mexico has very little leverage on the US. EU has loads of leverage on Google.
We shall see. It has thus far been in Google's best financial interests to make nice in the European markets because of the size of the user base that they would leave on the table if they responded to EU pressure by shutting down services. I'm unsure if that continues to be true if the EU siphons money off of them to build a direct competitor.
The EU represents close to 50% of potential/projected revenue to Google in the next 10 years, is my guess. That's what I meant when I wrote "loads of leverage".
Re: The world needs more search engines
#60I want to see niche search engines: - a search engine for blogs - a search engine for dev questions - a search engine for shopping - a search engine for diy etc. Im really tired of sites trying to centralize and own this content. The key to decentralizing and empowering individuals to own their content is enabling distribution and discovery. New search engines are essential to the web we want.
> a search engine for shopping
That would be nice especially since hopefully it would mean there would be a search engine I could use and not get shopping results. It seems like anytime I search for something I get shopping results so I have to be more specific and type more which is inconvenient. Wikipedia used to be the first result for many things I search for now it pretty much never is. It's been getting worse every year.
On a pretty unrelated note, it would also be nice if I could search the play app store without getting games in my results. There's pretty much a game related to everything I want to search for. Very annoying.