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When I worked in Central Illinois recently, the home my wife and I rented bordered a field where young cows were raised. The small cows seemed to play some sort of game, running around each other like run after the leader. We thought they were playing. Later my wife found stuff on the web about cows being given beach balls to play with and with each other. Uncomfortable truth for people who selfishly help environment…
When I worked in Central Illinois recently, the home my wife and I rented bordered a field where young cows were raised. The small cows seemed to play some sort of game, running around each other like run after the leader. We thought they were playing. Later my wife found stuff on the web about cows being given beach balls to play with and with each other. Uncomfortable truth for people who selfishly help environment…
> Later my wife found stuff on the web about cows being given beach balls to play with and with each other. Uncomfortable truth for people who selfishly help environmentally destroy our planet with their meat addictions? I see it like this: Every time I pay for beef I create demand for more cows, thus I help fund little calves playing in the fields. Their lives might be a little shorter than usual, but I don't see wh…
By the way, the agriculture industry loves that you believe those farms on the side of the road are where your meat comes from. Instead of the factories that actually produce the overwhelming majority of the meat in this country. You pay for them to be cramped up, tormented, and murdered.
When I worked in Central Illinois recently, the home my wife and I rented bordered a field where young cows were raised. The small cows seemed to play some sort of game, running around each other like run after the leader. We thought they were playing. Later my wife found stuff on the web about cows being given beach balls to play with and with each other. Uncomfortable truth for people who selfishly help environment…
> Later my wife found stuff on the web about cows being given beach balls to play with and with each other. Uncomfortable truth for people who selfishly help environmentally destroy our planet with their meat addictions? I see it like this: Every time I pay for beef I create demand for more cows, thus I help fund little calves playing in the fields. Their lives might be a little shorter than usual, but I don't see wh…
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I'm more intelligent than someone with Downs Syndrome, but that doesn't mean their life is less valuable does it? Let me guess: they get a pass because they are human. That's what it comes down to really: things that are like me deserve rights and respect and things that aren't don't. That all humans happen to fit into the "like me" category is a relatively recent concept.
>I'm more intelligent than someone with Downs Syndrome, but that doesn't mean their life is less valuable does it? That depends on who you ask, actually.
I keep getting surprised at the inability (refusal) of humans that we are not the only intelligent (and emotional) life form on this planet. It is extremely annoying.
I think it's a subconscious act of self-preservation. Truly accepting the sentience of animals would be conferring upon them a much more expansive (and expensive) set of rights, which in turn would make the our society seem all the more immoral through how we treat other species. Too much cognitive dissonance.
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Intelligence is a sliding scale and, until someone proves us wrong, we are the most intelligent life form on this planet. Emotional... well that's something else.
I'm more intelligent than someone with Downs Syndrome, but that doesn't mean their life is less valuable does it? Let me guess: they get a pass because they are human. That's what it comes down to really: things that are like me deserve rights and respect and things that aren't don't. That all humans happen to fit into the "like me" category is a relatively recent concept.
When I worked in Central Illinois recently, the home my wife and I rented bordered a field where young cows were raised. The small cows seemed to play some sort of game, running around each other like run after the leader. We thought they were playing. Later my wife found stuff on the web about cows being given beach balls to play with and with each other. Uncomfortable truth for people who selfishly help environment…
i think you mean 1 cubic inch unless your parrot is only 2 dimensional
When I worked in Central Illinois recently, the home my wife and I rented bordered a field where young cows were raised. The small cows seemed to play some sort of game, running around each other like run after the leader. We thought they were playing. Later my wife found stuff on the web about cows being given beach balls to play with and with each other. Uncomfortable truth for people who selfishly help environment…
> people who selfishly help environmentally destroy our planet with their meat addictions? I would say yes. You know you're not the only dog owner to say stuff like this, which I've always found odd. I think it's a kind of American exceptionalism writ large into vegetarian(?) thinking, where people see themselves as separate from the circle of life, instead of as someone in a relationship with nature. (Where they con…
I grew up around hunting and farms and also don't find it surprising that animals are fairly intelligent.
While your statement about pasturing being good for the environment is partially true in that there are some forms that do some good, by and large meat production is actually one of the largest causes of GHG emissions.[1] A lot of this land would actually be used more efficiently for production of non-animal proteins like legumes, especially considering the land that is used to supplement pasturing through production of animal feed in most modern agriculture.
Reptilian brain crap which seems based on superficial shape when we really should know better now given evidence sitting in front of us.
It doesn't really hold. Sheep are infamously too dumb to live unassisted perhaps owing to overbreeding for docility.
Meanwhile cephalopods are capable of opening jars and get up to mischief like getting out of their tank and shorting out light fixtures when bored and I have observed hermit crabs transmitting behavior socially ("punching" instead of pinching with their larger claw) and figuring out how to rotate an improperly secured lid on its axis.
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> Later my wife found stuff on the web about cows being given beach balls to play with and with each other. Uncomfortable truth for people who selfishly help environmentally destroy our planet with their meat addictions? I see it like this: Every time I pay for beef I create demand for more cows, thus I help fund little calves playing in the fields. Their lives might be a little shorter than usual, but I don't see wh…
You also pay for calves being torn from their mothers while the mother weeps for days. You pay for the calf to be slaughtered in the cheapest legal way, and often not even that. You pay for the times the cow doesn't die immediately, but sits in agony haven't done nothing to deserve this. By the way, the agriculture industry loves that you believe those farms on the side of the road are where your meat comes from. Ins…
I’m lucky enough to both cook at home, live in a big city with lots of good butchers, and have the resources to be able to afford to buy organic, pasture raised, and grass fed meats as much as possible.
It’s not always possible to avoid factory farmed meat products, I assume anything I eat out unless the restaurant is very upscale is going to be cheaper cuts, and my parents aren’t rich and don’t buy like that although I’ll try sometimes to grab a turkey for Thanksgiving for instance.
Interestingly, my girlfriend is from India and vegetarian as many Indian people I’ve met seem to be, she didn’t like the Impossible Burger at all, because it was too meat like, which is a bit funny to me.
Lab grown meats are showing promise for the future which is neat.
But yea, life is bloody, violent, and miserable a lot of times. We should be thankful to live in such relatively peaceful times. Seems like there were just millenia’s of near constant region conflicts, famines, plagues, epidemics, religious wars.
It hasn’t all gone away, but maybe we’re closer than we’ve ever been?