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Apple responds: we want a cut of Amazon, Sony e-book sales

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Re: Apple responds: we want a cut of Amazon, Sony e-book sales

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[From other thread] I'm having a tough time believing the spokesperson got it right, because of the Rhapsody, Netflix, and Audible apps. Never mind every PDF viewer.

It just seems like a really, really bad idea that will bring government intervention. The Kindle app kicks over to Safari for purchases, but I really can't imagine them requiring Amazon to add an in app purchase through Apple. I can't imagine the circumstances that would make that acceptable.

Re: Apple responds: we want a cut of Amazon, Sony e-book sales

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So, I can purchase books thru Safari but not thru the Amazon Kindle App? How does this make sense?

Seems like a workaround might be to link to the Amazon mobile site from the Kindle App. But maybe that is too close to "selling" content thru the Kindle App.

Re: Apple responds: we want a cut of Amazon, Sony e-book sales

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I don't want to seem like I'm overreacting or hating on Apple or anything like that, but this seems to be in a whole new realm of greedy/controlling for Apple. Or is it really reasonable to force apps to use your payment platform?

edit: It seems in other threads on the front page that this is likely Sony blowing things out of proportion. Most of the "news" is all speculation and discussion. I suppose we'll have to wait and see what policies or actions Apple actually takes.

Re: Apple responds: we want a cut of Amazon, Sony e-book sales

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This opens up a huge can of worms and will push any company who has a subscription service out of the App Store. How does this work with freemium, for instance? And what if the app is not from the company but from a third-party that uses an API?

We looked at using In App purchase for a large collection of add-ons. Even if Amazon, Sony and B&N wanted to offer in app purchase as well as through their stores, Apple's system is a pain in the neck to do that. Their support structure just isn't designed for a large array of product options.

Re: Apple responds: we want a cut of Amazon, Sony e-book sales

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So, I can purchase books thru Safari but not thru the Amazon Kindle App? How does this make sense? Seems like a workaround might be to link to the Amazon mobile site from the Kindle App. But maybe that is too close to "selling" content thru the Kindle App.

That is what Amazon does today. If this is correct then Apple is saying you can't do this anymore.

Re: Apple responds: we want a cut of Amazon, Sony e-book sales

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This doesn't seem ridiculous to me as a user. I read this as saying is that if an app plays content I can purchase elsewhere, then Apple wants to be able to also sell the content in the app.

If I have it correct, I as a developer can make a maze application and sell mazes on my own web site, but I must also give users the option of buying them in the app and fork over 30% to Apple. If I do this, it's up to me to convince users that the experience of buying mazes on my web site is superior to the experience of buying them right in the app.

As long as Apple doesn't prohibit applications from "playing" content purchased elsewhere, as a user I have no problem with this, because it gives me another choice for purchasing new content that offers a smooth and easy purchasing experience.

Amazon, et. al. probably hate the idea, but that comes down to two lords arguing over which one gets to exploit the serfs.

Re: Apple responds: we want a cut of Amazon, Sony e-book sales

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Is it just me, or is this every bit as outrageously greedy as consumer ISP's (Comcast, etc) wanting to charge Netflix, Youtube, etc.?

It's not just you, but it is far more reminiscent of being every bit as greedy as console manufacturers demanding licensing fees from cartridge manufacturers (or whatever we call sharecroppers).

Remember that if a developer makes an app and sells it for money, Apple gets 30% of their revenue, period, full stop. That's the App Store deal, if you don't like it, you don't develop an iOS app.

So what happens when a developer builds an app that does almost nothing. He givs it away for free. But to use the app, you go to the developer's site, pay money, and download a level or something, like my maze app example above. Presto! The developer has just done an end run around the App Store, and Apple doesn't like that.

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