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Re: Michael Apted's “Seven Up” series is reaching its conclusion

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Re: Michael Apted's “Seven Up” series is reaching its conclusion

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Post by mcguire » Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 4:52 PM UTC

The first law of genetics: who you are at birth is who you are when you die. So, yes, 7 and 63 are a sub-range.

Re: Michael Apted's “Seven Up” series is reaching its conclusion

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Post by capableweb » Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 4:58 PM UTC

mcguire wrote: post #32

The first law of genetics: who you are at birth is who you are when you die. So, yes, 7 and 63 are a sub-range.

What if you switch out two brains from people? Who is who?

Re: Michael Apted's “Seven Up” series is reaching its conclusion

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Post by AnimalMuppet » Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 5:07 PM UTC

mcguire wrote: post #32

The first law of genetics: who you are at birth is who you are when you die. So, yes, 7 and 63 are a sub-range.

That assumes that "who you are" = "your genes", though. That's... let's just call it "not proven".

Re: Michael Apted's “Seven Up” series is reaching its conclusion

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Post by mcguire » Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 5:28 PM UTC

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #34

mcguire wrote: post #32

The first law of genetics: who you are at birth is who you are when you die. So, yes, 7 and 63 are a sub-range.

That assumes that "who you are" = "your genes", though. That's... let's just call it "not proven".

http://humancond.org/papers/turkheimer00_three_laws_behavior...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4635473/

Don't look at me, I'm just quoting received wisdom from HN.

Re: Michael Apted's “Seven Up” series is reaching its conclusion

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Post by o-__-o » Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 5:34 PM UTC

capableweb wrote: post #33

mcguire wrote: post #32

The first law of genetics: who you are at birth is who you are when you die. So, yes, 7 and 63 are a sub-range.

What if you switch out two brains from people? Who is who?

Or more realistically, when you have a stroke you are now a different person. Though I'm wondering if a stroke victim ends up recalling different memories and thus be more like their 7 year old self than 63...

Re: Michael Apted's “Seven Up” series is reaching its conclusion

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Post by runjake » Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 6:03 PM UTC

From my own viewpoint: yes.

This despite several different eras of life involving quite different standards of living and careers.

I am still that 7 year old, just older and grayer.

Re: Michael Apted's “Seven Up” series is reaching its conclusion

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Post by vasilipupkin » Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 6:05 PM UTC

mcguire wrote: post #35

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That assumes that "who you are" = "your genes", though. That's... let's just call it "not proven".

http://humancond.org/papers/turkheimer00_three_laws_behavior... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4635473/ Don't look at me, I'm just quoting received wisdom from HN.

If you read the link that you yourself posted carefully, you would have noticed "A typical human behavioral trait is associated with". Associated with != determined by. Of course, genetics influence our behavior. Which is a completely different claim from "genetics determine our behavior".

Re: Michael Apted's “Seven Up” series is reaching its conclusion

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Post by fouc » Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 6:06 PM UTC

This possibly can help people understand themselves and their trajectory in life, and also be better parents if they have children.

Re: Michael Apted's “Seven Up” series is reaching its conclusion

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Post by coldtea » Fri, Nov 29, 2019, 6:08 PM UTC

sgt101 wrote: post #15

randomsearch wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Adults are children in bigger clothes.

My first born cured me of childish ways.

And yet many a 50-year old will get a fast car, chase younger women, etc, despite having 1 or more children already...