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Smart TVs like Samsung, LG and Roku are tracking everything

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Re: Smart TVs like Samsung, LG and Roku are tracking everything

#243
Once again, a problem that could easily be solved by requiring a right to root as part of the right to repair. I hate how so many of these are running linux on the underside but you can't do anything with it. I had a friend who got a Samsung smarttv and when I looked up rooting it, the chances were high of bricking it, so we decided not to do it.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the way we prevent this is in right to repair legislation that includes the right to root.

Re: Smart TVs like Samsung, LG and Roku are tracking everything

#245
post #7

Surely this is a non-issue if you don’t connect the TV itself to the internet?

I have heard reports that some smart TV's (and other "smart" devices?) will sometimes connect to any open wifi within range without user consent or knowledge.

Re: Smart TVs like Samsung, LG and Roku are tracking everything

#246
I own an Samsung smart TV and will so in the future but I wonder if this is only true if you activate the "smart hub" or if this is this true if you just connect the device to your network.

I personally use a Chromecast for my smart TV needs, which of course Google knows everything about. But the chromecast can't see anything else I do, no broadcast TV or if I use the DLNA function.

I wonder when right holders demand those information to sue people who watch "illegal" content on their TVs.

Re: Smart TVs like Samsung, LG and Roku are tracking everything

#247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The more likely course of action is your microwave refusing to work without internet connection, so that it can verify the DRM on your pizza, make sure you are using only the approved, overpriced pizzas. Also, it will be sold to the public as "verifying that you are using the fresh and genuine product".

You joke, but we already have this type of mess with Keurig, Nespresso Vertuo and that Silicon Valley juicer whose name I forgot.

Juicero.

I don't joke. I am a frequent reader of /r/shittykickstarters and it's a popular business model amongst these startup hardware products.

Re: Smart TVs like Samsung, LG and Roku are tracking everything

#248

In my opinion you should not use ANY of the smart features of a "smart" TV. Don't give it your wifi key and don't put it on your LAN. I have about 400% more trust of Microsoft and Sony than I do of random smart tv manufacturers. I also have a fairly high degree of confidence that the xbox one and PS4 software will remain up to date with security patches, and address critical issues quickly. I have no confidence for T…

> I have [...] trust of Microsoft and Sony

Stop trusting companies. That's what got us in today's horror show of privacy invasion. Verify what you get and buy accordingly. Trust in corporations is something that's not required and is actively detrimental to society as a whole.

Re: Smart TVs like Samsung, LG and Roku are tracking everything

#249
Not connecting to Wifi doesn't really seem to be an option for me. I bought my Samsung smart TV purely with the intention of using it for Netflix, Blu-Ray and Youtube (which is already tracked). It sometimes connects to television if the source gets switched, but I've randomly had it on the same German nature channel since day one. I'm not even sure what the rules are for TV tracking in Germany though.

Re: Smart TVs like Samsung, LG and Roku are tracking everything

#250
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just unplug it from the network. That should get rid of most of it. I have an LG smart TV that has never seen the network. I get no ads, no popups, no features, no EULA, nothing. It behaves like a dumb TV. It was the LG 65UH series from Costco.

HDMI cables can double as Ethernet cables. In the future "just unplug it from the network" will mean "just unplug all HDMI devices".

This requires both ends (source and receiver) to be configured for Ethernet over HDMI.
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