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Re: Singapore tells Facebook to correct post under new fake news law

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Post by onetimemanytime »

tdsamardzhiev wrote: post #116
_2d30 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure Singapore's government falls under a military dictatorship by any means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Singapore

I'll counter your wikipedia link with one of my own. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regimes Not seeking to discredit the ruling party. What they've done with Singapore is nothing short of a miracle. But the fact is that they're still backed up by a ridiculously strong army, and the opposition party exists just so they can say there is one (but is frequently bullied regardless).

Singapore is way to small and easy to run an experiment, for whatever time it lasts. A shakeup in world order and they lose their status

Re: Singapore tells Facebook to correct post under new fake news law

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Post by DiogenesKynikos »

malka wrote: post #101
ulfw wrote: post #63

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It's interesting to see people in the west often lauding Singapore for that and vilifying China if they do the same.

yeah, putting people in concentration camp because of their religion does not seem to buy them much credit. Weird.

Most Chinese Muslims are not Uyghur. The Chinese government doesn't care about its citizens being Muslim per se. The issues are actually quite different - separatism and a string terrorist attacks that caused a government crackdown.

Re: Singapore tells Facebook to correct post under new fake news law

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Post by Grue3 »

xuki wrote: post #138
bkor wrote: post #120

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> Safest in the world, hands down. Any figures to back that up? It's said that nothing gets stolen in Singapore, until you speak to Singaporeans. Bikes still get stolen for instance. The city seems super clean, but mainly because low paid workers clean the city really often. If a Singaporean visits another country you'll notice that they're used to the city being cleaned often, not so much that they're behaving diffe…

> Any figures to back that up? A simple Google search will show you Singapore and Tokyo are regarded as the 2 safest cities on Earth, which one is first depends on which report you read.

And Tokyo happens to be quite democratic and non-authoritarian. So an argument that people necessarily need Big Brother to behave falls flat on its face.

Re: Singapore tells Facebook to correct post under new fake news law

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Post by [deleted] »

tdsamardzhiev wrote: post #116
_2d30 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure Singapore's government falls under a military dictatorship by any means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Singapore

I'll counter your wikipedia link with one of my own. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regimes Not seeking to discredit the ruling party. What they've done with Singapore is nothing short of a miracle. But the fact is that they're still backed up by a ridiculously strong army, and the opposition party exists just so they can say there is one (but is frequently bullied regardless).

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Re: Singapore tells Facebook to correct post under new fake news law

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Post by Grue3 »

DiogenesKynikos wrote: post #142
malka wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah, putting people in concentration camp because of their religion does not seem to buy them much credit. Weird.

Most Chinese Muslims are not Uyghur. The Chinese government doesn't care about its citizens being Muslim per se. The issues are actually quite different - separatism and a string terrorist attacks that caused a government crackdown.

The fact that it's ethnic, and not religious discrimination makes it even worse.

Re: Singapore tells Facebook to correct post under new fake news law

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Post by ajscanlan »

hopefulcynic wrote: post #133
Peckingjay wrote: post #66

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Most likely because Singapore is not also putting huge amount of people in detention camps and harvesting their organs. Maybe if they had the scale to do so they would, but that's not really the question when it comes to public opinion.

> Most likely because Singapore is not also putting huge amount of people in detention camps and harvesting their organs. To be fair, the chinese call it de-radicalization/re-education centers, which they set up after a few extremist separatist attacks which killed hundreds of people. And as for the organs, much of the west ( especially in europe ) take people's organs without their explicit consent (it's called opt-…

> And as for the organs, much of the west ( especially in europe ) take people's organs without their explicit consent (it's called opt-out organ "donation".

I feel like equating the forcible harvesting of organs to opt out organ donation is extremely disingenuous.

Re: Singapore tells Facebook to correct post under new fake news law

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Post by fiblye »

mac01021 wrote: post #118
irjustin wrote: post #99

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As an US expat living in SG, I would say yes. Singapore is the first place where I actually began to question whether democracy was the absolute way. Democracy was how I was raised. Overall, I still believe it is the way long term, but what can you do when you have a single, unified government that cares for its people is simply amazing. Safest in the world, hands down. This can be felt in every day life. I hold tabl…

All the examples of safety that you provide describe my experience in the US too, FWIW.

Public housing in the US is not a place most people want to be and no reasonable person leaves their phone on a table and goes anywhere.

Re: Singapore tells Facebook to correct post under new fake news law

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Post by sojmq »

v7p1Qbt1im wrote: post #123
irjustin wrote: post #99

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As an US expat living in SG, I would say yes. Singapore is the first place where I actually began to question whether democracy was the absolute way. Democracy was how I was raised. Overall, I still believe it is the way long term, but what can you do when you have a single, unified government that cares for its people is simply amazing. Safest in the world, hands down. This can be felt in every day life. I hold tabl…

The „watchful eye“ part sounds disturbing. I‘ve been to Singapore and it‘s a very impressive place. But it‘s also very sterile imo. Sure there is awesome street food and culture in general to a degree. But i kept missing the borderline stuff there. I like to live in a place where people are allowed to make mistakes, even criminal ones in some cases, and not have their live be over Immediately. That sounds weird to so…

You like to live in a place with crime, there's plenty of places to choose from. People should also have the right to live in a place where they won't mug you or rape you.

Re: Singapore tells Facebook to correct post under new fake news law

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Post by sojmq »

bkor wrote: post #120
irjustin wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an US expat living in SG, I would say yes. Singapore is the first place where I actually began to question whether democracy was the absolute way. Democracy was how I was raised. Overall, I still believe it is the way long term, but what can you do when you have a single, unified government that cares for its people is simply amazing. Safest in the world, hands down. This can be felt in every day life. I hold tabl…

> Safest in the world, hands down. Any figures to back that up? It's said that nothing gets stolen in Singapore, until you speak to Singaporeans. Bikes still get stolen for instance. The city seems super clean, but mainly because low paid workers clean the city really often. If a Singaporean visits another country you'll notice that they're used to the city being cleaned often, not so much that they're behaving diffe…

>The city seems super clean, but mainly because low paid workers clean the city really often.

As opposed to, say, cleaners in the West, which are paid more than engineers,

Re: Singapore tells Facebook to correct post under new fake news law

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Post by viewbase »

Peckingjay wrote: post #66
ulfw wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting to see people in the west often lauding Singapore for that and vilifying China if they do the same.

Most likely because Singapore is not also putting huge amount of people in detention camps and harvesting their organs. Maybe if they had the scale to do so they would, but that's not really the question when it comes to public opinion.

Genuine question: is there any proof for organ harvesting of Uighurs yet? A quick Google search on "Uyghur organ harvesting" leads to me tabloid sources and calls for investigations.

Uighurs are Turkic people who are genetically different from ethnic Chinese. Transplant recipients must have similar genes in their immune systems to those of the donor. Otherwise, the body will reject the organ. This is also why blacks have a harder time finding organ donors: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2013/01/21/blacks...

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