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Why I Voted to Sell .ORG

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Re: Why I Voted to Sell .ORG

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this is dystopian. is there anything we can do? i can’t think of anything... government won’t help, the org which we trusted to protect .org is the one screwing it, are we completely powerless? if this battle is lost, what greedy move can they make next? how can we get ahead of that now?

Another post mentioned that this may be self-dealing. This comment they linked has information on complaints/actions that can be taken: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21658324

Re: Why I Voted to Sell .ORG

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> the ruling will be enforced if there is a consensus that it is a just ruling The Supreme Court regularly makes rulings that are contrary to popular opinion. I see no evidence that the rulings are not being enforced despite the lack of consensus that they were just. They also regularly make rulings that align with the slight popular majority but the popular opinion is still about evenly split with no clear consensus…

Following unpopular laws is itself a consensus, one where abandoning the rule of law altogether is seen as more harmful than enforcing one unpopular ruling.

How is it a consensus when people on the losing side often respond with violence, riots or protests? Lacking effective means to overthrow the government hardly implies agreement.

Re: Why I Voted to Sell .ORG

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I'm worried that somebody with staggering naivete like this is on the board of Let's Encrypt as well.

I wonder if he'd have the same lack of qualms about selling that to a private equity firm...

Re: Why I Voted to Sell .ORG

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The funny thing is that despite his credentials, he made such a spectacular blunder. It makes one wonder when the other shoe will drop for "Let's Encrypt".

Well, they already only take bug reports from people who enter into a contract with Microsoft!?

Really? I've never heard of that. Can you elaborate?

Re: Why I Voted to Sell .ORG

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I'm kind of amazed that this website ( http://www.circleid.com ) is not served via https and even the login is posted to a http endpoint. There's even a redirect from https to http. You would think that "A World-Renowned Source for Internet Developments" would be on top of that.

This also raised my eyebrows -- I don't even see the redirect, I just get broken HTTPS if I try to use it. In 2019 (almost 2020!) no website should be served over plain HTTP let alone have broken and nonfunctional HTTPS.

Re: Why I Voted to Sell .ORG

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post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the ruling will be enforced if there is a consensus that it is a just ruling The Supreme Court regularly makes rulings that are contrary to popular opinion. I see no evidence that the rulings are not being enforced despite the lack of consensus that they were just. They also regularly make rulings that align with the slight popular majority but the popular opinion is still about evenly split with no clear consensus…

Following unpopular laws is itself a consensus, one where abandoning the rule of law altogether is seen as more harmful than enforcing one unpopular ruling.

You've now defined "consensus" as "anything you don't stage an armed rebellion over" ... which doesn't seem like a useful definition at all.

Re: Why I Voted to Sell .ORG

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Well, they already only take bug reports from people who enter into a contract with Microsoft!?

Really? I've never heard of that. Can you elaborate?

Well ... try reporting a bug without doing so and see how far you get?!

Re: Why I Voted to Sell .ORG

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You even kinda get the best of both worlds, a cash infusion and more money in the long run. The org TLD has 14 million registrations in it right now. If Ethos announces a 50% price hike (increasing the base charge from $9 to $13.50), my guess is 2% of the domains would be immediately renewed for the 10-year max at the old price. So right off the bat, Ethos have 280,000 domains * ($9 * 10 years) = $25,200,000 in new c…

It occurs to me that I should probably extend all the .org domains I control (for a non-profit) to 10 years, now.

I have three org domains I really care about and have already bumped them out as long as currently-PIR will let me. Sucks to have to but two of these domains are so old, I have no idea what all would break if I let them go.

Re: Why I Voted to Sell .ORG

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The last time .org was up one of the bidders considered that Oxfam and redx (red cross ) where not valid users of .org At the time I worked for one of the bidders Poptel, so I got to hear a lot of the inside stories

I'd like to hear the reasoning behind that.

I'd like to hear the reasoning behind that

Something like: Oxfam is a fundraising organisation that just does enough charity work to generate photos for their marketing. It’s a long way from what most people believe a charity is - volunteers doing good works and raising money to directly buy the supplies and equipment.

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