Why I Voted to Sell .ORG

Post by akiselev » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 6:24 PM UTC

femto113 wrote: post #180

im3w1l wrote: post #108

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Changing domains is not easy, but if you bring up 20+ year horizons, then it is definitely viable to change domains to deal with rising costs.

Except that the way trademark law works in the US you have to "defend" your marks or they can be considered abandoned. This means as long as renewing your domain is cheaper than the cost of hiring an attorney to send a Cease and Desist letter to the squatter who grabs it after you're better off paying. I'm guessing that horizon is more like 30-40 years off.

Post by icebraining » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 6:28 PM UTC

C1sc0cat wrote: post #138

icebraining wrote: post #56

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You have to pay about $200k to ICANN just to submit a proposal for a new gTLD.

Those are the vanity domains bidding for a proper tld is much more $$$

Post by somebodythere » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 6:28 PM UTC

tlb wrote: post #111

danpalmer wrote: post #14

> Make .org domain names "accessible and reasonably priced for all", including limiting price increases to no more than 10% per year This immediately stuck out to me as a really bad deal. Rising with inflation, somewhere between 1 and 4% per year, would essentially keep prices stable. This is tricky when selling internationally, but roughly possible. Rising by 10% each year is significantly faster than inflation, and…

PE companies are very much in the business of valuing a revenue stream that goes up 10% per year highly. This article doesn't show thinking beyond 10-20 years, but most of the economic value comes even farther in the future. In 50 years, it could be 14000x the current price! If you plug a 10%-growing revenue stream into a net-present-value formula with a discount rate less than 10%, you get infinity. The future reven…

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 6:31 PM UTC

agwa wrote: post #55

tobltobs wrote: post #36

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> during which domain owners can lock in a 10-year registration at pre-increase rates. That is not what is written in the Registry Agreement. "Registry Operator shall offer registrars the option to obtain domain name registration renewals at the current price ... for periods of one (1) to ten (10) years at the discretion of the registrar, but no greater than ten (10) years."

In practice, this says the same thing. There's no reason for registrars not to let their customers lock in the low price for 10 years. There's stiff competition among registrars and their margins on domain name sales are razor thin. They make their money by selling various add-on services. It's better for them if registry prices are low because that encourages people to buy more domains, and thus more add-on services…

Post by zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC » Thu, Nov 28, 2019, 6:37 PM UTC

andrewprock wrote: post #177

TumorousJoker wrote: post #38

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It's just funny to me that he felt the need to start listing out his credentials before explaining his stand.

The funny thing is that despite his credentials, he made such a spectacular blunder. It makes one wonder when the other shoe will drop for "Let's Encrypt".